First Milsurp Guidance?

If you want quality anything swedish will do and they are still relatively cheap for the perfomance they provide (k31, m96,m38)

Cheap to shoot is anything from the combloc. (Sks, mosin,svt)

For collecting a german k98 is a must. For your budget you can get a nice russian capture if you look long enough or a isreal converted.

For collecting and heritage theres the lee enfield. Bonus point for the one made at long branch since they were made here in Canada
 
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Mulletard said:
Owned a mosin for about a month. What a clunky piece of ####. But I am used to running enfields and swede mausers. Only plus to mosins is 54r surplus. But other than that, for me mosins are a hard pass. Russian ones anyways.

Reload cast 303 to 2000fps and shoot all day out to 200yds for not to much coin. Biggest problem is primers and powder at the moment for those who are new or didn't stock up.
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You must've gotten a lemon. I owned several, pre-war, war time and post war, never had one of the older, pre commie ones. Friend owns OG sniper. Fired that one too. Out of 200m 3 shots land within .5 of an inch from one another. I only had issues with one war time made rifle but it was a beater to begin with. I also have 1938 S/42 Oberdorf Mauser, K98 is built better but pre-war 1936 Mosin I ended up keeping is not far behind. Both rifles are pretty much the same when it comes to accuracy. Both shoot better than I can. Buddy of mine was pissing people off, purposely shooting chains off of a gong with my Mosin out of 200m :)
 
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maple_leaf_eh said:
Of the two, this is the one to buy. John would not misrepresent a sale. Matched Mausers aren't being made any more, and keeping the parts altogether is not as easy as you'd think, especially because things break. If the crooked crosses and German eagles are intact, even better.



Listed as mismatched. I'd leave this one on the rack.
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Hmmm these are tempting. I'm willing to bet that neither are original, matched or not. (It would be 3000$ rifle otherwise.) The wood is a bit nicer on the cheaper one and if it's an RC, it technically correct as mismatched;)
 
Mulletard said:
Owned a mosin for about a month. What a clunky piece of ####. But I am used to running enfields and swede mausers. Only plus to mosins is 54r surplus. But other than that, for me mosins are a hard pass. Russian ones anyways.

Reload cast 303 to 2000fps and shoot all day out to 200yds for not to much coin. Biggest problem is primers and powder at the moment for those who are new or didn't stock up.
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Alot of what you consider clunky is only because the straight bolt handle design. They cannot be cycled the same way as a bent bolt. Your movements have to be more basic straight up, and straight over, VS a nice curve sweep. I noticed this when I put a bent bolt handle on one of my Mosin bolt bodies.
 
VuDu666 said:
I'd go Mosin --> Mauser --> Enfield -- > K31 and than whatever else you want. At least that's how I started. Mosin will probably be cheapest out of all also cheapest when it comes to ammo. 7.92 Mauser ammo is expensive, 35 cents a shot for PPU surplus 5-6 years ago to $1.50. Brit .303 is apparently hard to find these days and it also went up quite a bit but 7.62x54R is still kicking around at half decent prices. I'm guessing it's because lots of Chinese corrosive ammo available.
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My supplies of 48-round boxes of .303 are getting lower and lower each season. I have .303 brass and 7.62x54R ammo. There are plenty of discussion around on how to reload one with components from the other.

Similarly, I remember less than $20 for a box of Federal or UMC 150-gr FMJ 30-06 which was great in a Garand. That was 20 yrs ago. Sniff.
 
OkayShooter said:
Alot of what you consider clunky is only because the straight bolt handle design. They cannot be cycled the same way as a bent bolt. Your movements have to be more basic straight up, and straight over, VS a nice curve sweep. I noticed this when I put a bent bolt handle on one of my Mosin bolt bodies.
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Plus the Russians overbuilt everything. You could take an 1/8" off that cocking spring and it would still be stout.
 
Well I’m sure my answer should be obvious but I vote Mosin. Don’t just go buy a garbage rod though, you can pick up a cheap beat up 1943 round receiver for $200 somewhere post bubba restoration, however you will hate it. Good Mosins and bad Mosins are different creatures, and it’s very noticeable. Pick up a Mosin Nagant M38 or M44 carbine, something half decent, take the rest of your money and buy yourself a crate of surplus ammo, that’s two spam cans worth of fireball shooting, accurate, give your timid friends a heart attack kind of fun. I’ve hunted with my M38, I’ve also taken a clean pre war hex receiver model, put it into an archangel stock, hand loaded a good round and made a sub MOA target rifle. As a first, you can’t go wrong, and if you pick up something half decent, at very least you’ll enjoy it, and you won’t lose much in terms of rifle investment.

Alternatively as .303 goes, consider a P14, I found them more interesting than the other Enfields, again less common but they do come up. As mentioned however, expensive to feed.
 
DLaw3000 said:
What do you guys think of this Swedish Mauser? Seems like a decent buy to me.
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Anything build using Mauser action is good. Still being used in modern rifles. I'd try to handle/fire one before buying but that's just me. Dont know if this is still happening but back in the day we used to have milsurp days at Silverdale, we`d bring all kinds of WW1/WW2 era firearms, always had people come up and ask to play around with them. If you have a membership there maybe give them a call and find out if that's still happening. Most guys that used to come out to those events didn't mind people firing couple of shots here and there.
 
This is more of a direct question for MosinMan, but supposing I grab one of the typical surplus 91/30s from a reputable retailer and I know it’s not been bubba’d… think that’ll still be fun? I’m having a hard time finding an M38 or M44 from stores. Select Shooting Supplies has a Hungarian M44 which looks nice but it’s $1200 which seems a bit much?
 
If you want a mosin carbine, hold out for one. You'll be disappointed if you settle.

They come up on the EE regularly for under $1200.
 
Keeping a close eye on this thread.
Got a Garand, smallbore Mauser, a Spanish Mauser and God forbid, a sporterized FN Mauser.

Not sure which milsurp bolt gun will be next?
Leaning towards an M48 or a LE in superior condition....?
Yet, sometimes I get a nervous twitch when I see an unissued Polish M44. Lol
 
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