Quoted to reinforce all these points. A very sound list that covers most of the common mistakes. I would add that I try to glance at my elevation turret after I’m in position before I look through the scope. Saves silly mistakes.
First ORPS. Any hints/tips/wisdom
- Thread starter Tinybear
- Start date
I also have a Match Pro and my first event coming up.
100% zero at 50. That's ~2mrad to 100 and ~8.5 for 200. I'm going to make a 30moa (~8mrad) rail for my Tikka so i can shoot out to 300 (part of the event)
Someone can tell me what 10 and 25 would be but i doubt it matters more than "aim for lower half of target"
I'll probably hold over 100 and dial in 200+ and use 12-16 power. No need for 24x on any of these. The eyebox gets small and picky and no benefit to your accuracy.
I've shot off a bench with 6x and 24x at 100y and my group size is the same (sub 0.5 moa)
I can see my 3/8"" dot inside a 1.25" circle on either power.
Based off of Womfats videos, most targets seem to be at least 4" at 100y.
100% zero at 50. That's ~2mrad to 100 and ~8.5 for 200. I'm going to make a 30moa (~8mrad) rail for my Tikka so i can shoot out to 300 (part of the event)
Someone can tell me what 10 and 25 would be but i doubt it matters more than "aim for lower half of target"
I'll probably hold over 100 and dial in 200+ and use 12-16 power. No need for 24x on any of these. The eyebox gets small and picky and no benefit to your accuracy.
I've shot off a bench with 6x and 24x at 100y and my group size is the same (sub 0.5 moa)
I can see my 3/8"" dot inside a 1.25" circle on either power.
Based off of Womfats videos, most targets seem to be at least 4" at 100y.
Got the last of the parts for my Savage setup today and installed. I set this up for production class ORPS and CRPS (if/when I try that) and all else fail an accurate range fun toy.
Off to range tomorrow to get re zeroed and practice a bit at the 100yards.
Savage B22 FV SS.
Foam filled the stock to take anway some of the hollow feel/sound
Rubberized truck bedlinered the plastic butt pad for a bit more grippy feel.
Kadex Cheek riser.
MDT 30moa Rail.
Vortex Pro Low 30mm Rings.
Bushnell Match Pro 6-24x50.
Champion 9-13” pivot bipod. (May swap for one of the Caldwell xla pivot bipods I have that’s a 6-9”)
Off to range tomorrow to get re zeroed and practice a bit at the 100yards.
Savage B22 FV SS.
Foam filled the stock to take anway some of the hollow feel/sound
Rubberized truck bedlinered the plastic butt pad for a bit more grippy feel.
Kadex Cheek riser.
MDT 30moa Rail.
Vortex Pro Low 30mm Rings.
Bushnell Match Pro 6-24x50.
Champion 9-13” pivot bipod. (May swap for one of the Caldwell xla pivot bipods I have that’s a 6-9”)
As a fellow just getting into it, here is where I have learned over the last couple months at practice matches in prep for the ORPS.
- Upgrade gear once you can hit a match. You will get to try lots of gear and options and there is no one best solution!
- Get a ballistic app that you can enter your ammo and then tweak based on your drop at 100y. DOPE is everything and using other people's DOPE or the apps without the ability to tweak based on known drop has not worked for me.
- Practice dryfire on all the rungs of a ladder to try multiple positions and how to steady yourself!
- Upgrade gear once you can hit a match. You will get to try lots of gear and options and there is no one best solution!
- Get a ballistic app that you can enter your ammo and then tweak based on your drop at 100y. DOPE is everything and using other people's DOPE or the apps without the ability to tweak based on known drop has not worked for me.
- Practice dryfire on all the rungs of a ladder to try multiple positions and how to steady yourself!
That set-up looks perfect!
Only thing I can think of is that you may want to install an arca rail at some point.
Make sure to bring a basic sandbag that is either shaped or not too full so that it can mold around 2/4s, edges, chains, and the points on a tank trap. At the match people will likely let you try out all their fancy bags, but good to have a back-up of your own.
On your trip to the range bring a step ladder so you can practice off a variety of positions... I felt a little dorky doing this, but it has made a big difference being able to play with different positions without the pressure of being timed.
I've seen large cube bags used for arm and knee and torso? support in some stages with odd stance required
is there a set rule covering these? size, placement
is there a 'one bag only' rule or can a guy take two smaller ones, thinking some barricade spots may have limited space, where tires or barrels may need more
is there a set rule covering these? size, placement
is there a 'one bag only' rule or can a guy take two smaller ones, thinking some barricade spots may have limited space, where tires or barrels may need more
https://rimfireprecision.ca/wp-cont...EGULATIONS-2018-v1.03-with-Approved-Lists.pdf
Production class 1 bag. Open class whatever you want. I don’t use a pump pillow type large soft bag, but some do. I find that keeping my torso vertical over my knees/feet takes care of most of this. Outside of ORPS, some Match Directors may restrict equipment use, but that is match to match. I am leery of depending too much on equipment that may get restricted later.
Good advice thanks. Going to dry practice with ladder at home. Unfortunately at my range can only shoot standing or off a medium (ideal for standing) bench at the 25 yard. And at the hundred it’s from a seated bench only (working on a new building to offer standing as well).
I have already read threw the April course of fire a few times since it was released Friday. Plan to print it at work tomorrow.
For a bag I have a heavy shooting rest/bag from Caldwell and a cheap bag off Amazon loose filled myself with floor dry (I am a mechanic had that on hand).
Had the completed setup out on Saturday and shot a few hundred rounds. Shot 5 groups of each ammo at 100 yards. 5 shot groups (with 20shots to re zero in between) with Norma Tac 22, CCI Standard, CCI GreenTag (shot one 10th or group with this), Eley contact and SK Long range match.
SK did the best followed by Eley contact. CCi green tag was a close third followed logically by CCI Standard. Tac 22 was the worst I feel.
Left row CCI Standard, Middle CCI Green Tag, right was SL long range match. Eley Ana’s Norma were shot on a separate target that was also used for sighting-in so got pretty cluttered.
I have already read threw the April course of fire a few times since it was released Friday. Plan to print it at work tomorrow.
For a bag I have a heavy shooting rest/bag from Caldwell and a cheap bag off Amazon loose filled myself with floor dry (I am a mechanic had that on hand).
Had the completed setup out on Saturday and shot a few hundred rounds. Shot 5 groups of each ammo at 100 yards. 5 shot groups (with 20shots to re zero in between) with Norma Tac 22, CCI Standard, CCI GreenTag (shot one 10th or group with this), Eley contact and SK Long range match.
SK did the best followed by Eley contact. CCi green tag was a close third followed logically by CCI Standard. Tac 22 was the worst I feel.
Left row CCI Standard, Middle CCI Green Tag, right was SL long range match. Eley Ana’s Norma were shot on a separate target that was also used for sighting-in so got pretty cluttered.
Kayser Sose
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Van Isle
Nice.
I eventually obtained a scope with detailed reticle, and i have noticed that fussing with the adjustment takes effort and time, and that holding over works just fine.
I need to stretch more; in general but especially as some of the positions are uncomfortable. Some of the competitors are goddam flexible compared to me!
(I tried some of this Norma TAC22; i didn't like it, seems pretty low velocity tbh and shot consistently low. Extremely so at 100yds.... Federal AutoMatch, thats my pill.)
I wear knee padding, crawling around on the concrete firing line is no bueno. Also, i make sure to have and promote the fun aspect of this game. That there is 2 cents
I eventually obtained a scope with detailed reticle, and i have noticed that fussing with the adjustment takes effort and time, and that holding over works just fine.
I need to stretch more; in general but especially as some of the positions are uncomfortable. Some of the competitors are goddam flexible compared to me!
(I tried some of this Norma TAC22; i didn't like it, seems pretty low velocity tbh and shot consistently low. Extremely so at 100yds.... Federal AutoMatch, thats my pill.)
I wear knee padding, crawling around on the concrete firing line is no bueno. Also, i make sure to have and promote the fun aspect of this game. That there is 2 cents
Thanks all for all the advice. This was truly a lot of fun. Can’t wait for the next one I definitely am hooked.
Much of the advice was very helpful. One thing that was said and one I still underestimated its importance was getting a good shooting bag. The cheap amazon one I filled with floor dry did not work on some stages. Thankfully like many here said people were awesome and very helpful. Truly had a lot of fun and look forward to next one in Guelph.
My goal is to slow a bit and get smoother. It was a whole new challenge where I found I battled just as much with my own head (if not more) as I did with the actual challenge itself. Most shots I missed I know I missed them via rushing to just not following the fundamentals. So lots to improve on and focus on in practice.
As far as the savage B22 FV I setup for this. I was very happy with the rifle and won’t be changing a thing on it for next round (other than the new shooting bag I just ordered)
For anyone on fence about trying the sport I highly highly recommend it. Very welcoming and overall plain fun.
Much of the advice was very helpful. One thing that was said and one I still underestimated its importance was getting a good shooting bag. The cheap amazon one I filled with floor dry did not work on some stages. Thankfully like many here said people were awesome and very helpful. Truly had a lot of fun and look forward to next one in Guelph.
My goal is to slow a bit and get smoother. It was a whole new challenge where I found I battled just as much with my own head (if not more) as I did with the actual challenge itself. Most shots I missed I know I missed them via rushing to just not following the fundamentals. So lots to improve on and focus on in practice.
As far as the savage B22 FV I setup for this. I was very happy with the rifle and won’t be changing a thing on it for next round (other than the new shooting bag I just ordered)
For anyone on fence about trying the sport I highly highly recommend it. Very welcoming and overall plain fun.
Last edited:
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
If allowed, ARCA rail as long as possible. use 2 sections so that it extends beyond the end of the stock. If allowed, add as much weight into the forend and beyond as possible.
I use a sticky Gamechanger and can highly recommend it as 1 bag choice - reg fill, reduced to suit your tastes for compaction. Rest your rifle so the front of the trigger guard acts as a brace against the side of the GC. This will greatly improve balance on props... and how much weight you need to add.
Do lots of unsupported positional shooting to complement the practise off the props.
In general, LOPs are too long, combs too high and scopes too low.... when in position, you want your head as upright and as level as possible. For many, you end up with a lower contact with the comb then what is 'fashion'. As you move up and down in height (ladder), your head position relative to the scope should stay stable and comfortable. The body moves and bends but the head/scope stays in the same relationship. This allows the buttstock to move closer to the center of the chest.
If you have a POI change when you move in height, you and the rifle are not lined up properly. If you have to fight to look through the scope in a lower position, you are not setup properly. If you fight to shoot offside, again, you are not set up properly.
Get comfy, then lots and lots of GOOD practise. Focus on hits.. not number of shots fired. Slow is smooth... Smooth is fast.
As you get more comfy with the tasks, the time to get a shot downrange will shorten and you will be able to complete the course of fire. You are scored for hits, not number of shots fired.
Lots to learn, enjoy the journey... watch the winds
Jerry
I use a sticky Gamechanger and can highly recommend it as 1 bag choice - reg fill, reduced to suit your tastes for compaction. Rest your rifle so the front of the trigger guard acts as a brace against the side of the GC. This will greatly improve balance on props... and how much weight you need to add.
Do lots of unsupported positional shooting to complement the practise off the props.
In general, LOPs are too long, combs too high and scopes too low.... when in position, you want your head as upright and as level as possible. For many, you end up with a lower contact with the comb then what is 'fashion'. As you move up and down in height (ladder), your head position relative to the scope should stay stable and comfortable. The body moves and bends but the head/scope stays in the same relationship. This allows the buttstock to move closer to the center of the chest.
If you have a POI change when you move in height, you and the rifle are not lined up properly. If you have to fight to look through the scope in a lower position, you are not setup properly. If you fight to shoot offside, again, you are not set up properly.
Get comfy, then lots and lots of GOOD practise. Focus on hits.. not number of shots fired. Slow is smooth... Smooth is fast.
As you get more comfy with the tasks, the time to get a shot downrange will shorten and you will be able to complete the course of fire. You are scored for hits, not number of shots fired.
Lots to learn, enjoy the journey... watch the winds
Jerry
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
It will be put in Open and can happily join in the fun.
Jerry
Jerry
