First Pistol Purchase looking to IDPA and NSCC

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I don't have any incentive to buy a pistol and spend any money on it getting it tweeked. I'm a simple point and shoot kind of guy and not too excited about aftermarkety typitie projects.

So what is a guy to buy for his first entry level IDPA / NSCC pistol and calibre?

I am pretty darned ignorant in this area.
Looking for help here guys.

I'm assuming a HP35 or 1911A1 as in this post

I'm a traditionalist.
Not fond of polymer frames (but not from any critical position).

I have an add up here too

Thanks Guys - for any recommendations you might have.
I'm here to learn.

BY THE WAY
IDPA Has 5 Divisions:
1. Custom Defensive Pistol (.45 ACP semi-auto only)
2. Enhanced Service Pistol (9mm or larger semi-auto pistols)
3. Stock Service Pistol (9mm or larger - double action, double action only or safe action semi-auto's)
4. Enhanced Service Revolver (.38 or larger dbl action revolvers)
5. Stock Service Revolver (.38 or larger dbl action revolvers)

I'm interested in Divisions 1 to 3
IDPA Rules are found HERE
 
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http://www.freedomventures.ca/tanfoglio1911.htm

If you are looking at shooting games the 1911-a1 needs a big beavertail. (after the first couple of hundred rounds the old style beavertail will draw blood from the web of your hand. The sights on a GI are pretty small making it less competitive.

Those are the essentials sights and the beavertail. So if you don't want to tweak make sure that the gun you pick has those two factors.


Nice to have well the skys the limit.

Between a high power in 9mm and a 45 I am not sure on the rules for IDPA however for IPSC the 1911 style in 45 is a better choice. The high power can not be used in production class it must shoot in standard aand it is a minor caliber so there is a disadvantage to scoring.

You can buy a browning in 40 smith and wesson and it will get around this point. As for mag capacities everyone is stuck at 10 weather your shooting a 1911 or a high power.
 
tree mugger said:
A steel CZ-type....
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A Double action/Single action CZ-75B is a great place to start. 9mm or .40 is available. This will allow you to shoot in Production Class in IPSC.

If you prefer Single Action ONLY (as I do) the CZ 75B SA is available. This will put you in Standard Class in IPSC.

Both are reliable, good quality pistols that shoot well, out of the box, and that have a large enough following that you can "tune them" later, within the Class rules.
 
From shooting both, I have come to like the CZ platforms better (I've come to like single action/double actions)

Some CZ-ophiles would call me a heretic....I shoot a Norinco NZ85b, and LOVE IT !!!!! I got rid of my Browning after getting the NZ....
 
Riflechair said:
What is wrong with the venerable browning Hi Power?
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I shoot one and quite like it. the extra rounds help from a game perspective if you look at that, though a 1911 with 8 rnds is good too. If you have big hands, some like the beretta, personally I'm not a big fan of DA/SA for a game gun, (or a carry gun for that matter) but DAO is ok, like sigs DAK, Para LDA or any of the smith and wesson DAO. But for an out of the box gun (and I hear you not liking plastic, I am the same way) it's hard to beat an XD with all the gear, or (bleach) a glock. (I don't like glocks, but they work)
 
Glock 17/22 of CZ75 are the 2 best options IMHO. If you get the Glock 22 or CZ 75 in .40, it can slo be used in 2 classes of IPSC (Standard or Production). The 9mm version of the Glock or the CZ is good for 2 divisions in IDPA (ESP or SSP).

I tried my Browning HP in both IPSC and IDPA but I found the Glock and CZ's to be superior especially for rapid mag changes. The Browning must have the mag safety removed to be competitive, which is sometimes difficult to do on the latest versions since the pin that needs to be removed is very tight and ususally leads to marring of the frame or damaging the pin. I think the CZ is the fastest for mags changes.
 
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