So I am wetting my beak into the precision shooting for the first time. I don't know much about it and there are so many different rifles, and different models of the same one so I really don't know what to get. I would like something that has good after market support that I could change the barrel etc down the road. I am thinking 308 calibre but am open to others as I already reload so adding another calibre wouldn't be a problem. I would like something that can reach out to 5-600m and as I get better upgrade necessary parts for the rifle to be capable of shooting around the 1000m range. I am thinking around the 1200$ for the base rifle.
First Precision Rifle
- Thread starter Matty308
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A Remington 700 or one of the Savages in .308 will do just fine. Handle a few of them and see which one fits you the best. There is no reason a factory rifle with a factory barrel would not be able to hit targets at 1000 yards.
- Location
- Richmond, BC
I was in the same boat as you just a few weeks ago. From most of the advice I got, the general direction I was pointed in was a Remington 700 or Savage 10FP (or if you're an LEO or MIL, get the TR). I ended up getting the 700p because it was on sale for under $1K but if you can find a 5R, it's about the same price point you're looking to spend. Google them and look up the reviews.
All these guys speak the truth cheaper to by a old rem or savage and use the parts
with these ranges and accuracy so does hand loading and hours of range time
also a very good scope
308 is ok but there are better options
6.5 x 55 , 6.5 x 284 , 280 , 284
if your hand loading anyway .
308 will work and you can find match ammo
it still requires hours of range time and that means more loading .
review your ballistics tables
if this is for hunting review your sectional density charts .
Time to study up
cheers and have fun
with these ranges and accuracy so does hand loading and hours of range time
also a very good scope
308 is ok but there are better options
6.5 x 55 , 6.5 x 284 , 280 , 284
if your hand loading anyway .
308 will work and you can find match ammo
it still requires hours of range time and that means more loading .
review your ballistics tables
if this is for hunting review your sectional density charts .
Time to study up
cheers and have fun
Matt_dal123
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Maybe even look some of the nicer tikka rifles. I am thinking it will be my next factory .308. Well made and pretty accurate out of the box.
Also I believe that they have some amazing aftermarket help and warranty. But don't hold me to that. I thought that about wetherby and I was terribly mistaken. Lol.
Good luck in finding your match.
Also I believe that they have some amazing aftermarket help and warranty. But don't hold me to that. I thought that about wetherby and I was terribly mistaken. Lol.
Good luck in finding your match.
- Location
- Iles Aux Grenouilles
Take a look here .. you can't find better....for your money
Savage 10 P-SR .308 18" Barrel Heavy Threaded
http://www.irunguns.com/product.savage-10-p-sr-308-18-barrel-heavy-threaded
•Bolt-action
•Heavy threaded (5/8-24) barrel - 1:10'' twist
•Black synthetic stock w/beavertail forend
•Detachable magazine
•Oversized tactical bolt handle
•5 R rifling
•1-1/2 lb. AccuTrigger™
•Matte Blue finish
Cal.: .308 Win.
Cap.: 4
Brl.: 18"
Savage 10 P .308 20" Heavy Barrel Black Finish with synthetic stock
http://www.irunguns.com/product.savage-10-p-308-20-heavy-barrel-black-finish-with-synthetic-stock
•Bolt-action
•Heavy barrel - 1:10'' twist
•Black synthetic stock w/beavertail forend
•Detachable magazine
•Oversized tactical bolt handle
•5 R rifling
•1-1/2 lb. AccuTrigger™
•Matte Blue finish
Cal.: .308 Win.
Cap.: 4
Brl.: 20"
If you want to upgrade get a used (ie known to be not a piece of crap) 700. If you want a good rifle get any Tikka.
If you want to shoot 600m then you should be way more concerned about the optics, which will likely be worth a lot more than your rifle budget.
If you want to shoot 600m then you should be way more concerned about the optics, which will likely be worth a lot more than your rifle budget.
paperslayer
Regular
- Location
- Chilliwack
Off the shelf, you can't go wrong with a Tikka. Find a heavy barrel rig in 6.5X55, 260 or as a last resort 308. Start reloading your own ammo and have fun.
Remington makes a damned fine action that is the basis for virtually all customs.
I personally have almost no use for Savage... they are a clunky crude gun with sloppy parts but since the savage accessory pimps pretty much sponsor this forum, there is a strong localized following here. those that actually compete in long distance shooting don't use Savage as a general rule. Those that do use Savage will naturally jump up and down and tell you you should buy a savage, but when some of the best gum plumbers around wont work on them, what does that tell you?
Remington makes a damned fine action that is the basis for virtually all customs.
I personally have almost no use for Savage... they are a clunky crude gun with sloppy parts but since the savage accessory pimps pretty much sponsor this forum, there is a strong localized following here. those that actually compete in long distance shooting don't use Savage as a general rule. Those that do use Savage will naturally jump up and down and tell you you should buy a savage, but when some of the best gum plumbers around wont work on them, what does that tell you?
^ That they shoot so well that tinkering doesn't give any noticeable improvements? The shooter is the most integral part of the precision game followed by cartridge development, scope, then rifle. If you want to up your shooting game these are the order of priorities, so if you think it is all about the rifle then you are lost to the fail gods.
I agree with Ian that Tikka are fine rifles but if I were I your position I'd choose a Remington. An inexpensive start up would be a SPS and to change out barrel, trigger and stock as funds permit but given your initial budget when not get a Remington R5 in .308 - haven't heard of one that isn't a shooter. I am not as opposed as Ian is towards Savages offerings but my preference is for Remington.
ultimate_monkey
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- victoria BC
i agree with Tomochan. i started off with a 5r way back . and got into reloading. the gun was +/- 1/2 moa with 175smk.... back when i started target shooting, i used a .22 (i was 8 when i started) and this served me just fine until my early 20s. then i wanted to step into the fullbore stuff.. by the time i felt like it was the gun holding me back, the barrel was pretty much shot out.. so needless to say its a very well put together gun and chances are, by the time you feel like you NEED more accuracy, the gun itself will have kept up with you just fine
Matt_dal123
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You really think savages are that bad?? :/
I enjoy my savage rifles. I'm a Remington hater at all an enjoy them also. But I would say that in terms of actions from the same price point rifle, savage feels less clunky than the rems. I just pull back a rem and feel its scratchy and not fluid. Not to say its that bad. But the feel of a action it think sometimes comes down to personal preference. There really isn't a HUGE difference in terms of quality with the two rifle brands.
But I respect your opinion.
Whats your budget for optics? That's just as important if not more important than the rifle itself. You can't hit what you can't see
For $1200 for a rifle, you can't really go wrong with a Savage. They have great accuracy out of the box, and you can change barrels yourself if you want to get into a switch barrel setup down the road.
For optics, buy the best glass that you can afford. If it's in the budget, I would recommend Vortex scopes, or higher "premium" brands. I do not have much experience for optics in the lower budget range, someone else will have to make that recommendation for you.
Remember you also need to include scope rings, bipod and a base into your budget as well. Precision shooting is an expensive hobby, but a very fun and rewarding one. Good luck!
For $1200 for a rifle, you can't really go wrong with a Savage. They have great accuracy out of the box, and you can change barrels yourself if you want to get into a switch barrel setup down the road.
For optics, buy the best glass that you can afford. If it's in the budget, I would recommend Vortex scopes, or higher "premium" brands. I do not have much experience for optics in the lower budget range, someone else will have to make that recommendation for you.
Remember you also need to include scope rings, bipod and a base into your budget as well. Precision shooting is an expensive hobby, but a very fun and rewarding one. Good luck!
Yeah, I will be putting a quality scope on it. I have a Leupold MK4 2.5-8x I might use for a little while until I buy another. I will probably be looking for a Nightforce or something similar in the 4-16x or 5-20x range.
