First responders discount

riversrest said:
It was your choice to "volunteer" or have you been forced into it? Well, let's assume not.

And now you're b!itching about expenses on your gear? You did obviously not think it through when you "volunteered".

I assume, none of the "volunteers", firefighters, police officer, medics,.... have been forced into their profession or did they?

But then, they feel the urge to spill out all the good they are doing with the common's man tax money who pays them to fulfill professional duty they've choosen to do?

Where is the love for the first responding appliance repair man, the plumber to fix YOUR #### leak or the carpenter/roofer who fixes up your roof you neglected to fix in time?

Some of you so called or self-pronounced "first responders" dudes feel so entitled it's actually disgusting and disrespectful to any other profession out there.

Btw. I don't give a #### if companies give a discount to their obviously preferred customers. I just don't buy from them.
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I agree for the most part.

Being a plumber/HVAC mechanic means that a guy will never get any discounts anywhere.. even if you spend all night running from house to house to business to business getting the heat back on in the winter.

Why don't businesses ever give tradesmen any love?
 
Nestor said:
So many jealous morons emerging with each of those threads. Thanks CGN for the ignore feature. Very useful indeed.
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That took a lot of thought eh?.

You miss the point by a country mile. Everyday folks can use the price break so much more than full time employed cops. That's the point. This bogus 'first responder' banner that keeps getting thrown around means nothing, car breaks down?, tow truck guy or gal, first responder. Sink gets blocked?, plumber first responder....Everyone who works is a first responder!. I used to work in LE, I don't anymore I'm in no way jealous of the current members.

I make a very nice living thanks and don't need a 'special needs discount'. I'm just a bit surprised that pew pew stores would offer one to the very people that would deprive us of our property given the call to do so. My current work means I have to buy all my tools and equipment at the going rate, even though I'm a 'first responder'. No one held a gun to my head to do this job either. I'm not whining about buying things I need to work.

So that sums up exactly how I feel. Please read and re read then comment if you must, don't go off on another tangent. : )
 
Castle1 said:
vern130 "...it's Wolverines choice on who they offer discounts to...".


Well said. The rest of your post not so much.
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Did you read it all, or just cherry pick the bit that caught your eye?. Not so much into funding legal costs eh?. Not so much into supporting gun stores eh?. You don't sound very 'gun minded' to me.
 
ReverendX said:
I agree for the most part.

Being a plumber/HVAC mechanic means that a guy will never get any discounts anywhere.. even if you spend all night running from house to house to business to business getting the heat back on in the winter.

Why don't businesses ever give tradesmen any love?
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Wait, does the furnace chase you through the dark in January when it's -30 with a knife while it's on meth?

not saying what you do isn't a worthy career, or that you're not great at your job, but some careers are harder than others... I doubt the suicide rate in HVAC is quite as high as mil/pol/ems

Even as a volunteer with SAR/EMR I've seen some nasty stuff that most people can't shake.
 
vern130 said:
That took a lot of thought eh?.

You miss the point by a country mile. Everyday folks can use the price break so much more than full time employed cops. That's the point. This bogus 'first responder' banner that keeps getting thrown around means nothing, car breaks down?, tow truck guy or gal, first responder. Sink gets blocked?, plumber first responder....Everyone who works is a first responder!. I used to work in LE, I don't anymore I'm in no way jealous of the current members.

I make a very nice living thanks and don't need a 'special needs discount'. I'm just a bit surprised that pew pew stores would offer one to the very people that would deprive us of our property given the call to do so. My current work means I have to buy all my tools and equipment at the going rate, even though I'm a 'first responder'. No one held a gun to my head to do this job either. I'm not whining about buying things I need to work.

So that sums up exactly how I feel. Please read and re read then comment if you must, don't go off on another tangent. : )
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Sorry, it just seems to me that you are taking me for somebody who cares how you feel.
 
deadlydelta said:
Wolverine why would you increase the discount to first responders???
With everything going on I dont understand why companies throw themselves in the middle. So many people dislike cops and the RCMP right now it seems to be a bad choice right now.
I will put you on the list of companies I am boycotting and will not buy from like I did AI Tactical.
They tried it a week ago and reversed they decision because so many people contacted them with there disapproval.
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I think you answered your own question within it. As a mercahnt why would you not want to attract customers with steady income into your store and gain their loyalty for years to come.

Lets be honest, for most non First responders, most of the time you go to a local shop you can usually negotiate that 10% off with the salesperson (unless you go to a big box store). If a first responder gets 10%, he/she wont stick around as long to negotiate price, theyll be happy getting that discount, make their purchase and move on.

So from a business owners perspective, its a great idea.

And for the rest of the military/ems/cop haters out there, why are you trying to devide the gun community? When these people are not working, they are regular joes like you and me who enjoy shooting sports, hunting, etc.. Wouldnt this be a good time to have strong advocates of opposition to the gun ban within the various agencies/departments? Put aside your differences and start including people in the conversation.
 
ReverendX said:
I agree for the most part.

Being a plumber/HVAC mechanic means that a guy will never get any discounts anywhere.. even if you spend all night running from house to house to business to business getting the heat back on in the winter.

Why don't businesses ever give tradesmen any love?
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Don't you get plumbing/HVAC supplies at cost? Every tradesmen I know can at least fix their own stuff at cost (their own labor, and parts at wholesale cost). I don't know a mechanic who doesn't fix his own car with parts bought at wholesale price, an electrician or a plumber who hires another electrician or plumber, or a restaurant owner who doesn't eat food from his restaurant. A lot also do some work under the table. A white collar worker in an office get a free pen once in a while if he's lucky. School teachers typically pay some expenses from their own pockets...

That being said, the whole "first responder discount" thing is ridiculous. You're right that it's just as arbitrary as "plumber discount" or "fast food worker discount". Except it's probably dumber, because cops make largely enough to pay for their toy, so by giving them a discount, retailers aren't expanding their client base. Give a discount to the guy who's a penny away from entering the market, and you actually get a new customer.
 
wakeandsnow said:
Wait, does the furnace chase you through the dark in January when it's -30 with a knife while it's on meth?

not saying what you do isn't a worthy career, or that you're not great at your job, but some careers are harder than others... I doubt the suicide rate in HVAC is quite as high as mil/pol/ems

Even as a volunteer with SAR/EMR I've seen some nasty stuff that most people can't shake.
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Nope.. no knives involved but the environment and work site brings it's own hazards. For example falling.

What do you think causes the most work place deaths? A meth head wielding a knife, or a person falling off a ladder?

I think a lot of my previous tradesman/construction jobs were harder than what a pol/ems would do.. I do have previous experience to compare the hazards of each field.

I have seen some unbelievable nasty stuff as a construction worker. One of the worst was a guy falling off a scaffold. No meth involved..

All I'm saying is that it would be nice to get some love as a tradesman.

For example "5% off this weekend for tradesman sale"
 
ReverendX said:
Nope.. no knives involved but the environment and work site brings it's own hazards. For example falling.

What do you think causes the most work place deaths? A meth head wielding a knife, or a person falling off a ladder?

I think a lot of my previous tradesman/construction jobs were harder than what a pol/ems would do.. I do have previous experience to compare the hazards of each field.

I have seen some unbelievable nasty stuff as a construction worker. One of the worst was a guy falling off a scaffold. No meth involved..

All I'm saying is that it would be nice to get some love as a tradesman.

For example "5% off this weekend for tradesman sale"
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I'm not trying to start a pissing battle with you my friend. I'm a tradesmen myself. The reason more people are hurt on job sites is because more people DO those jobs.

Statistically you have a much higher chance of being injured on the job as pol/mil/ems than working on a construction site.

Also not sure how many car accidents you've been to, but as an volunteer (yes, I do in fact VOLUNTEER for my community) EMR i can tell you that many of them are totally horrific and certainly not a job for your 'average person.'
 
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riversrest said:
It was your choice to "volunteer" or have you been forced into it? Well, let's assume not.

And now you're b!itching about expenses on your gear? You did obviously not think it through when you "volunteered".


I assume, none of the "volunteers", firefighters, police officer, medics,.... have been forced into their profession or did they?

But then, they feel the urge to spill out all the good they are doing with the common's man tax money who pays them to fulfill professional duty they've choosen to do?

Where is the love for the first responding appliance repair man, the plumber to fix YOUR #### leak or the carpenter/roofer who fixes up your roof you neglected to fix in time?

Some of you so called or self-pronounced "first responders" dudes feel so entitled it's actually disgusting and disrespectful to any other profession out there.

Btw. I don't give a #### if companies give a discount to their obviously preferred customers. I just don't buy from them.
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Where exactly did you get the impression I was “#####ing” about providing my own gear? Not in what I wrote. What I WAS #####ing about are the Morons who blame the cop who stopped them for speeding in PEI for the actions of an RCMP superintendent in Ottawa, treat them like crap and then get all self righteous when they get tuned in. So...which one are you? The appliance repair man, the plumber or the carpenter?
 
ReverendX said:
I agree for the most part.

Being a plumber/HVAC mechanic means that a guy will never get any discounts anywhere.. even if you spend all night running from house to house to business to business getting the heat back on in the winter.

Why don't businesses ever give tradesmen any love?
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I always tip tradesmen a considerable amount.
 
Midnight Rider said:
It certainly has . After reading through all the posts , it sounds like Wolverine has lost a lot of business over the promotion . Retail is a rough business to be in as customers can be driven away to their competition so easily . The free enterprise system at work I guess .
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Funny, the anti-police crew usually don't have two nickels to rub together so I doubt it is a big loss, probably in the tens of dollars.
 
doctor_meltdown said:
Plus investment cost/time of flight school. No one with a high school education is getting hired by AC, period just like you probably won't get an interview if you only have the other min req. Just like you won't get hired at 21, despite it being the min age for an atpl IIRC. Starting pay for RP or FO is 50k as it's non-weight based for 4 years. You will have been at AC for years before making 200k as an FO. Pension is no longer DB since 2012. Bunch of people just got furloughed or took a 50 percent pay cut.

Despite the "benefits", I still wouldn't be a cop though. Thanks for the discount wolverine.
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And nobody gets hired to be a cop straight out of high school either. RCMP also start at $50k. There are certainly caveats involved in both cases, my point was simply that there are far easier ways to make substantially more money.
 
That one poster in this thread has ignorant, unintelligent, and short sighted posts. As another poster said, shouldn't we all want all Canadian gun owners on the same page right now? Instead that buffoon comes into this thread whining and trying to divide. The good thing is I have figured out how to use ignore on here now lol.
 
wakeandsnow said:
I'm not trying to start a pissing battle with you my friend. I'm a tradesmen myself. The reason more people are hurt on job sites is because more people DO those jobs.

Statistically you have a much higher chance of being injured on the job as pol/mil/ems than working on a construction site.

Also not sure how many car accidents you've been to, but as an volunteer (yes, I do in fact VOLUNTEER for my community) EMR i can tell you that many of them are totally horrific and certainly not a job for your 'average person.'
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That's not true. Most pol/mil/ems will never be injured at all on the job. Most construction workers will suffer at least a minor injury every year, and about 25% will suffer a major one during their career. The most dangerous job in Canada is actually fisherman.

Most pols will never be injured, shoot anybody, or even draw their gun. They are very likely to be puked on though, especially if they work 11pm or later, on a 1st of the month and on Thursdays. But mostly, they drive around in their cars and give traffic tickets, they don't really fight crime much.
 
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