First shots with my XCR-M... Smooth operator...

Chizzy said:
NTM Were those factory rounds or reloads in your 100 yard photos?

Thanks for your time.

Regards,

Chizzy
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Factory rounds of various types, federal gold medal 168 and 175, remington match 175, american eagle 155, mfs 150, etc.
Like I said, decent ergos and recoil, inconsistant point of impact, with cold weather making it worse.
Tried every trick in the book to clean it up, nothing worked.
I was thinking it might be me, but the lmt mws I traded the xcr-m in on was a laser beam in comparison.
 
Got the rifle out to the field to put some rounds on paper and snap some pictures. In a nutshell here is how it went.


Here is my XCR-M and the rickety plastic bench I shot off of. All I used for a rest was the front bag.
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This is looking down range from my rifle bench to the target backstop 100meters
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This is the first shots on target after boarsighting my rifle and shooting gongs last week for ruff zero 5 shots on target, 1 flyer towards bulls eye that I felt go wrong, shooter not gun.
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Didn't bring a tape with me so referenced my pinky on target to show group size. The only ammo I shot with today was 150gr Remington UMC FMJ. Cant waite to see what my handloading can do.
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After shooting the previous pictured target, I adjusted my scope 1.5MOA left and 3MOA up, the vortex scope is calibrated .5MOA adjustments. Then since I have heard some say they need 5-10 shot groups to show what a rifle can do....I fired 20 rnds in 5rnd increments....mag changes and all in rapid succesion and this is what happened. The oddball fliers I own, not the rifle (even with fliers in rapid succesion this rifle rocks) For a rifle of this type I believe the XCR-M is an exceptional shooting platform for its design. If Im looking for a pin point presision rifle I have my buddies at ATRS build it and they have done many works of art for the wife and I. Dont expect this rifle to be a sub MOA tac driver, its not. but she is one beautifully designed 7.62 X 51 semi auto that you should feel very comfortable taking game or target shooting with. As with Caramel I had no loose bolts or rattle, and I have NOT loctited the recomended bolts yet. I only had a short period to shoot today as the wifey had other plans for me. I can tell you I have nothing yet but praise for this rifle and there is absolutely nothing in it for me to praise it up to you guys. Hope this gives you some confidence in selecting the XCR. It would be nice to see some others show off simular examples of thier rifles as there has been alot of descrepancy on the net about this rifle. So I am open to the posibility there is a QC issue at Robinson Armament and different results with different rifles. Again all I can say about mine is good stuff.
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Your review just might have sealed the deal for me getting one of these as my first black rifle (tan I would like). Thank you for your honest opinion and time spent taking pictures etc.
 
One of the reasons I was interested to see caramel's results, qc issues.
The barrel attachment method is a basic design flaw, if you have a close look next time you pull the barrel, you'll be able to see signs of where the barrel shifts around a little inside the reciever. Almost a "rocking" motion.
I suspect the tolerances are better in some guns than others in the reciever to barrel extension fit.
 
They surely adjusted thierselves after the first models were out, this M look made with detail, nothing as now showed me it would give me trouble so far the QC look flawless... JP.
 
I got my XCR-M on Christmas Eve and have put a couple of boxes through it. Very solid and well made rifle that has cycled FMJ flawlessly. Very impressed with off hand accuracy at 100 yds with open sights. Really looking forward to taking it into the field with some good optics on it next season. Will have to look into ballistic tip loads to ensure proper feeding I think though.
 
Sooooooo can't wait to get mine!!!! Couple of days I'll have my hands on it.. :dancingbanana:

Thanks so much Long Range Canuck for your comments and pics..very inspiring and makes my decision to buy one even more satisfying.

Question I have as someone more familiar with bolt guns and the reloading process for them it... First thing I always do is establish my OAL by measuring my chosen bullet and case combination with a comparator so I know how close to the lands I want and adjust it accordingly. Then its on to powder charges etc. Being less familiar with semi-autos and what makes them accurate, I am curious if anyone out there with a XCR-M is reloading and applying these type of techniques. Most reports I see usually have been done with plain old factory ammo and thats about it. I do see someone with at least some match grade stuff so thats cool. But I am wondering if playing around with bullet weights/designs, powder charges, and OAL has an impact on a semi auto like it does on bolt guns?

Can anyone out there educate me??
 
I reload for my .223 XCR. First batch was loaded to case-spec COAL for 55grn round nose, with different powder loads to see which was best. 2nd-to-max load from the Hornady manual grouped 1" @100 and that was fine enough for me and I quit there.

-Actually that was 55gr Hornady VMax but the FMJ's were almost just as good.
 
I reload for my .223 XCR. First batch was loaded to case-spec COAL for 55grn round nose, with different powder loads to see which was best. 2nd-to-max load from the Hornady manual grouped 1" @100 and that was fine enough for me and I quit there.
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Nice. Thats what I am talking about. Thanks ccwcanada. And ya, If I got consistant 1" moa, I would go out and have some fun with that! What more could you ask of something like this. :cool:
 
With OAL I'm guessing it will be limited by the magazine size before you hit your chamber limit and then adjusting your powder load to tailor for accuracy. I haven't reloaded for my XCR yet but when I do I will probably stick to similar loadings and seating depths as Hornady Factory Amax loads or a higher end factory loading to avoid any potential problems, I know the semi can not take anywhere near the loads my custom bolt guns can. Personally I would play it on the safe side and stick to high performing factory loadings I don't think you can tweak more than 1MOA out of the XCR as a whole, but you might if you were lucky enough to get a real tight rifle, In this case I would pick a Safe load and then get to know what that load will do at all effective ranges...know your dope for the load and gain accuracy through consistency in all else.

Just my opinion.....typed on my iPhone sorry for any mistakes I hate typing on this thing. PM me if this isn't making sence and I can clarify in detail.
 
ccwcanada said:
I reload for my .223 XCR. First batch was loaded to case-spec COAL for 55grn round nose, with different powder loads to see which was best. 2nd-to-max load from the Hornady manual grouped 1" @100 and that was fine enough for me and I quit there.

-Actually that was 55gr Hornady VMax but the FMJ's were almost just as good.
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I am expecting my XCR-L this week too and will be doing reloading after i shoot through my first case of ammo. Would you please PM me with the type of powder and load etc you found best to save me some time? if not i can figure it out myself too but could possibly save some time. Thanks
 
Long Range Canuck
With OAL I'm guessing it will be limited by the magazine size before you hit your chamber limit and then adjusting your powder load to tailor for accuracy. I haven't reloaded for my XCR yet but when I do I will probably stick to similar loadings and seating depths as Hornady Factory Amax loads or a higher end factory loading to avoid any potential problems, I know the semi can not take anywhere near the loads my custom bolt guns can. Personally I would play it on the safe side and stick to high performing factory loadings I don't think you can tweak more than 1MOA out of the XCR as a whole, but you might if you were lucky enough to get a real tight rifle, In this case I would pick a Safe load and then get to know what that load will do at all effective ranges...know your dope for the load and gain accuracy through consistency in all else.

Just my opinion.....typed on my iPhone sorry for any mistakes I hate typing on this thing. PM me if this isn't making sence and I can clarify in detail.
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Good point about not over doing it with a semi. I usually get all the accuracy I need from my bolt gun even when loading on the light side anyway, but still good advice to remember. Looking forward to playing.

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mattf87 said:
I am expecting my XCR-L this week too and will be doing reloading after i shoot through my first case of ammo. Would you please PM me with the type of powder and load etc you found best to save me some time? if not i can figure it out myself too but could possibly save some time. Thanks
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I just used the standard, Varget, with 55gr VMax bullets for the best groups. Turns out I was actually using the max load, now that I checked my logs. Won't tell you the max load here because you'll need to work up. I used the Hornady manual. Cheers! Have fun with it, I did lots.
 
Also you'll be able to, and should, go down to gas setting 1 for max loads. Setting 1 now works for anything I put in it.
 
I succumbed to my own fear mongering about US manufactured rifle shortages soon to come and went down to Reliable Gun and picked up one of the last two they had in stock.

Out of the box it looks and feels like a good solid rifle. Look forward to shooting it.

Now hopefully my RFB shows up next week.
 
mildcustom2 said:
I succumbed to my own fear mongering about US manufactured rifle shortages soon to come and went down to Reliable Gun and picked up one of the last two they had in stock.

Out of the box it looks and feels like a good solid rifle. Look forward to shooting it.

Now hopefully my RFB shows up next week.
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-M? Put a scope on it and give us your range report, with pics please :)
 
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