I have a refurbished tula and a chinese SKS that was purchased new. Here are some differences I have noticed.The fit and finish on metal machining is nicer on the tula; the wood has a nicer finish as well. The wood on the chinese SKS seems softer and I noticed indents appearing very quickly in the stock. The chinese SKS bolt carrier seems to be wearing into the receiver. As for functionality both work very well with no problems with probably 800 rounds down the chinese SKS. I have shot both at 200 meters with same results. and have shot FastFord58's chinese sks with him at 300 meters and was very consistent at being able to hit the the metal gong. As for what I shoot the most... The chinese SKS.
First SKS. Chinese or Russian
- Thread starter chicu1981
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No I don't buy any firearms from those countries either. Mauser rifles are lame. Okay the Russian volunteer pilots wasn't cool but 50,000 Chinese charging up hill 677 and Canadians died there. You can buy weapons from china but I won't. Norinco is a aware word in my home.
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Didn't say we did. I said we were part of NORAD, the defence system set up against a ICBM strike. Cold War dude. Nuclear stand off. No nukes fired, just the fear that there would be. Spy games. USSR and her Warsaw Pact against the USA and her NATO allies. We were/are in NATO if you didn't know. IE not Warsaw Pact. IE Not allies with Russian from the end of WW2 to the fall of the Iron Curtain.
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All NORAD did was tell us how many minutes to impact. That iron curtain was very scary. No shots fired. There was more action in OKA. The Chinese are way worse.
Oh crap I take everything back! I eat Chinese food and love it and always wanted a. Asian girlfriend. I'm a fraud. Get me marstars I'm gettin me a m305.
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- East of Home, West of the Rest
The point is, we weren't allies with Russia as you claimed earlier in this post as being the reason you'd buy a Russian rifle. Because they were our "allies".
Two months ago you knew nothing of any SKS, causing you to post your thread titled "Which SKS model is the most desirable?" In that thread you wanted to know where you could buy a Paratrooper model. The "paratrooper" model were all made in China. Yet here you are professing your knowledge on the subject and saying you'd never buy Chinese. The other one with the "grenade launcher" is Yugoslavian by the way.
What blows my mind is these guys won't buy a $75 rifle, which probably cost like $40 to the dealer, crying "I'll never support the Chinese!", but will drive around in 20 or 30 thousand dollar cars that most components came outsourced from China. They still shop at Walmart, or anywhere else and fail to realize just how much they support china on a daily basis. Like a 75$ chinese rifle is going to make a big impact anywhere. Even if every licensed gun owner bought 1 chinese rifle, it's only 75mil if they saw every penny of the $40. They make billions/trillions on us...like 75mil even makes a dent.
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- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
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- East of Home, West of the Rest
Is that a Chinese train or a Russian?
Oh look, this stale rhetoric again.
I have two Chinese SKS rifles that are unrefurbished and unissued. They came to me packed in cosmoline and were exceptionally tight to disassemble and re-assemble, to the point of it almost being difficult. These things were basically brand new and once I was ready to shoot them, they performed excellently. After thousands of rounds and some pretty intensive torture testing, I can't get the one I shoot the most to jam. The other one is rarely shot and has never jammed either, but that doesn't mean much.
The fit and finish may not be the greatest, but remember that you're paying under 200 bucks for a Communist made combat rifle that rarely stops working and always puts the rounds where it's designed to put them.
I don't want to slag on the Russian ones, as I own three, but they're almost always more well used than a Chinese one which means the groups may be a bit (not much) worse and there may be some wear on the parts. I have an absolutely stock (all of my SKS's are) '54 Izhevsk that stovepipes the second last round in the mag at least twice per range trip where I shoot at least 200 rounds from it. My Chinese ones, put bluntly, cause less problems than my Russian ones, not that the Russian ones are too bad.
As for the comparison between the Canadian and American factories, please tell me the name of the Canadian and American factories that are producing SKS carbines, I'd like to pick one up.
You seem to have fallen for the internet rumors that all Chinese SKS's are junk because of a few documented stories of some of the Commercial Chinese SKS rifles being fairly sub-par. What you should realize is that 90% of the Type 56's you'll see for sale here in Canada are Military surplus rifles that have been made to a much higher standard.
Unless you get a late 80's pinned barrel, sheet metal construction Type 56, which are quite hard to find actually, your Chinese SKS will shoot great and outlive you if you take care of it.
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There was definitively cosmo on the non-refurb one I got last month, especially on the bayonet. That said, it was my first milsurp, so I might not have a good comparison (yet).
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midnightpossum
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I trust Al in picking my rifles... and I don't trust many
I just picked up my first sks, and it's a 1952 Russian with a laminate stock. I love it, it shoots great and groups pretty good, and still think its funny that I say my first as something just feels like it is the first of what could most likely be more. For the price, get one of each to start and enjoy.
