First trip with Norinco M14

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Went to the range for the first time with my Norinco M14 for a sight in at 100 yards. This is my first time ever shooting a rifle. First shot was on the paper, very impressed with accuracy with just iron sights. I was using Winchester super X 308 ammo, 150gr. After some adjustment of sights for elevation I tried to group them and this is the best I got.

I was told that it is very good grouping with just iron sights, what do you guys think? What can I do to make it better? Maybe a scope? Would changing the stock make it group better? or maybe some parts?


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The blue ammo is a dummy 9mm
 
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jimy said:
Nice shooting. That is most definitely minute of moose. I hope you bought 2 of them while you had the chance. :D You are going to love that rifle(if you don't already). Especially the price.
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Thanks, I love it!!
You are right, for the price you cannot find anything better. What range do hunters usually shoot to kill a moose, deer or whatever? How much more higher or lower should I aim for 50 yards and 200 yards
 
good shooting. it is your first time with the rifle so improvement will come quick, not that your need to worry much. learn your irons and record adjustments and practice, you may find you like the challenge more than optics. opinions vary but it is mine that a 308 should be used on large game out to 400yds in order to keep it humane.
congrats.
 
I also shoot mine with iron sights. I bust stationary clay pigeons at 100 yards, 9 times out of ten, hit a silhouette target every time at 200 yards and I can ring the 350 yards gong (3ftX3ft) every single time.

The only thing I did/added to it so far was to put a VLTOR stock ($530) on it, buy 8 20/5 mags and paint the front sight neon orange. I recommend you try that if you're going to keep it iron sights; the front sight pillar stands out so much better and I acquire the target so much faster.

The only other mod I am planning is a trigger job.

I am going to keep it iron sights. It is my everything rifle and it can do it all very well.

The more you'll shoot it , the more impressed you'll grow. I know I am.

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I'm taking mine out next weekend to zero it - and I'm a bit scared - I'm crap with iron sights, but certainly up for the challenge.

How did you zero yours? I heard it's as simple as adjusting the front site to be relatively centered than just adjusting the windage dial to adjust to your groupings.

Is it as easy as that?
 
harbl_the_cat said:
I'm taking mine out next weekend to zero it - and I'm a bit scared - I'm crap with iron sights, but certainly up for the challenge.

How did you zero yours? I heard it's as simple as adjusting the front site to be relatively centered than just adjusting the windage dial to adjust to your groupings.

Is it as easy as that?
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For some big bore rifles, the bullet impact point is the same at 20 yards as it is at 200 yards. The M14 is one of those rifles.

The ballistic trajectory of a bullet is an arc that starts under your line of sight, intersects it on its way up and again on its way down.

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Set up a target at 20 yards and see where 5 bullets group. When you are shooting at 20 yards, use the 200 yards markings on your rear sight as the point of impact should be the same, meaning that if you took that target and put it out at 200 yards, you should be hitting the same holes.

Then set up a target at 200 yards and try again, with your rears sights set up on the 200 mark, of course. Here is a little secret. Put a big piece of cardboard or paper under your target, as in the image below. If you are not on target, you will be able to see where you are hitting, and if you are grouping consistently, you can adjust to compensate.

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Most people put up a 1'X1' target and if they don't hit they assume that they are shooting way off. You will be amazed to learned that in most cases you are probably 1 inch outside of your target and if that was a person, you would most likely take them out.
 
Fenix.NZ said:
i use an aimpoint for 100m and under.. 200m zero on irons
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harbl_the_cat said:
I'm taking mine out next weekend to zero it - and I'm a bit scared - I'm crap with iron sights, but certainly up for the challenge.

How did you zero yours? I heard it's as simple as adjusting the front site to be relatively centered than just adjusting the windage dial to adjust to your groupings.

Is it as easy as that?
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I did not even touch the front sights. All I did was take couple shots and adjust the rear sights. On the left dial for evelvation I had it at about 4 and the right dial is in the middle
 
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