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I don't practice running shots, though I should. I do however practice me running and taking a shot. I will fire 2 shots out to 200yds, then run up to the target and run back, then quickly before catching my breath, fire 2 more shots. All done when I am the only one at the range of course!
 
Running shots are for people who like their venison shot full of adrenaline and bullets. It keeps getting better as the meat often come marinated in predigested, partially digested and fully digested indigenous vegetation.:shotgun:
 
I have very little skill with running shots. however the ones that have worked for me was a swing through straight up the back and bang. there was no aiming, it was a point, swing through and pull. Worked a couple times and missed a lot more.

Was on coyotes mostly, but once it worked on a caribou.

I will not shoot at a running big game animal now, unless it is coming to eat me.
 
walksalot said:
Running shots are for people who like their venison shot full of adrenaline and bullets. It keeps getting better as the meat often come marinated in predigested, partially digested and fully digested indigenous vegetation.:shotgun:
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If you're a good running shot, it only takes one shot. As to the adrenaline, my personal experience is that unless the deer has been run for hours by large fast hounds that's not true. Even then, the difference is negligeable.

There may however be a difference between farm country corn fed deer, and bush country deer. However slight, I think I can tell the difference. Both are good.
 
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John Y Cannuck said:
If you're a good running shot, it only takes one shot. As to the adrenaline, my personal experience is that unless the deer has been run for hours by large fast hounds that's not true. Even then, the difference is negligeable.

There may however be a difference between farm country corn fed deer, and bush country deer. However slight, I think I can tell the difference. Both are good.
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+1 I would venture that the taste of the meat is influenced far more by how the animal is handled after it's on the ground.
 
JFYI...

Adreneline does not build up in running game animals and make them taste bad. That is a myth that is propogated by hunters who think "biology" is a slurpee flavor!:rolleyes:

What actually causes some game animals to taste bad after processing is a lengthy period of strenous excercise before they were killed. This causes "lactic acid" to build in the muscle tissues which most definitely affects the taste. Ever see a dog that has been running hard for a long period of time? Notice how the large muscles on the hind leg shake? Those tremors are caused by the build up of lactic acid. The same thing applies game animals... but because they are much stronger and run more often it takes a much longer time for the acid to build up in game animals.
This lactic acid build up can happen even if deer are not being chased while hunting. During the rut deer are hyper active, Bucks especially and many times an animal is shot that is stressed and full of lactic for other reasons as well.
Good field care is the primary reason for good tasting meat whether the game ran or died in one spot!

Shooting running deer and practicing that skill has nothing to do with simple minded arguments about hunting styles or east versus west geography or animosity! Hunters should realize that sometimes you need more than one shot to prevent a deer from running! An animal does not always drop instantly even with a well placed shot and anyone who thinks they should simply lacks experience. When you let an animal run away after taking the first shot you run the risk of gamey meat and possibly losing the animal. This applies to any style of hunting any type of game and any part of the country you hunt in!

If you don't wish to practice or understand running or follow up shots, well fine, thats your choice. But don't think for a minute that you are the better hunter just because you choose to watch your animal run away.:onCrack:
 
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The running shot is one of, if not the most, high risk to wound shots in a hunting scenario. Just the fact that people admit they practice on animals I think is sending a very wrong message to our budding nimrods. Are we encouraging our young hunters to take high risk to wound shots? How many hunters actually practice running shots? A few I am sure but the vast majority load up and spray and pray.

Often when an animals is gut shot the gut pushes against the rib cage thus sealing the bullet hole. The only time rumen exits the body is when the hole in the ribcage and the hole in the gut lines up. This can be very infrequently and can be just a few drops. The hunter surveys the situation and concludes a miss but the animal is is left to try to survive with it's guts blown out.
 
walksalot said:
The running shot is one of, if not the most, high risk to wound shots in a hunting scenario. Just the fact that people admit they practice on animals I think is sending a very wrong message to our budding nimrods. Are we encouraging our young hunters to take high risk to wound shots? How many hunters actually practice running shots? A few I am sure but the vast majority load up and spray and pray.

Often when an animals is gut shot the gut pushes against the rib cage thus sealing the bullet hole. The only time rumen exits the body is when the hole in the ribcage and the hole in the gut lines up. This can be very infrequently and can be just a few drops. The hunter surveys the situation and concludes a miss but the animal is is left to try to survive with it's guts blown out.
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Come on now Walksalot... lets not drag this thread in the opposite direction... most of the respondents know exactly what I am talking about. I am not seriously suggesting that anyone practice running shots on game. Although in reality that is how most hunters learn to shoot that way. Duck hunting, rabbit hunting, grouse hunting or having a deer bolt and run after the initial shot.
Your assumptions that most hunters load up and spray and pray is not true in my neck of the woods. I doubt that they do in yours either.
This thread is about practicing in a meaningful manner for the likelyhood of a running shot after the initial shot.:rolleyes:
 
walksalot said:
The running shot is one of, if not the most, high risk to wound shots in a hunting scenario. Just the fact that people admit they practice on animals I think is sending a very wrong message to our budding nimrods. Are we encouraging our young hunters to take high risk to wound shots? How many hunters actually practice running shots? A few I am sure but the vast majority load up and spray and pray.

Often when an animals is gut shot the gut pushes against the rib cage thus sealing the bullet hole. The only time rumen exits the body is when the hole in the ribcage and the hole in the gut lines up. This can be very infrequently and can be just a few drops. The hunter surveys the situation and concludes a miss but the animal is is left to try to survive with it's guts blown out.
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Hmmm...so by your own admition it is better to let the above animal run away possibly wounded rather than chance a running shot :rolleyes:


Those that don't-won't practice all kinds of shots shouldn't in my estimation & fairness call themselves an accomplished hunter!
 
Well if you dont take it in our camp, you wont shoot many deer in the gang hunt. We do still hunt in the evenings, but the red bones tend to move the deer a bit faster than a brisk walk LOL!!! You must be care full but you must shoot as well!
 
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senior said:
I'd like to see you accomplished stalkers, sneak up on a deer where visibilty is anywhere from 50'-100' on a nice 4" bed of fall dried leaves :D:D
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oh hell I do it all the time right after I drink a redbull :rolleyes::D


now BR I will say that I have never "tasted" adrenaline but will say that any animal that runs any real distance is gonna be alot tuffer on the BBQ than 1 that just falls over dead, now on the other hand of it the butcher has the final say in how it will turn out, either the steak comes apart with a fork or the hamburgers so dam tuff even the dog wont eat it and Ive seen this several times were a buddy takes his half and gets it butchered elswere and then calls me up moaning that even a slow cooker cant soften it up, were my half would turn to liquid in a slow cooker its so tender.

as for all the arguing on running shots well, I think if your a good shot off the bat there shouldnt be to many running shots needed in life , but they do happen and practice always helps, hell Ive shot a moose a second time just for looking at a swamp or a patch of blowdown, like I want to waddle my fatass into that after a dam donkey that was shot in a perfectly good place to recover him from!;):D
 
I don't agree with the accomplished hunter bit.

Sure it is good to practice those running shots, but they are not a frequent shot taken by most. Of course There will now be a hundred replies from guys saying they do it all the time.

I think that an accomplished hunter should be competent in the shots he takes. If that is running, so be it.

I think that is never an excuse for a first shot to be a running shot. Simply dumbass unless it's self defense.

Learning Good tracking skills, I believe are 10 x higher on the importance list than practicing runing shots, with a rifle.
 
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