First You Get Fast... Then You Get Good!

At the ranges I shoot, I've never had to lead outside the body of the deer.
Well, ok, once. Last year I took a running buck in a new clear cut. Distance was a little over 100 yards.
scoped 88 Winchester, 165 grain Hornady interlock. Blew a chunk of meat out of the off side shoulder the size of a fist. Found the deer, just over a hump in the ground, he made it about 30 feet from where he was hit.
 
walksalot said:
The law enforcement people need radar to detect the differences in a vehicle's speed. To be able to do it by eye with an animal is a amazing feat indeed.
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Again... simple biology my friend... flat out a buck with the after burners on can go 40 mph...60 km. A bounding doe or yearling that is flagging and jumping or is just plain running in front of a threat will pace themselves at about 20mph... 32 km... this is common for deer in front of dogs or doggers! Trotting or jogging but not running/bounding your looking at 10 km + or - a couple, depending on the size of the animal and the geography.:)
This ain't rocket science... and shooting running coyotes is harder but quite do-able. Hunting Coyotes with hounds is the best way to get the experience needed for shooting running deer.:rolleyes:
 
Very true, plus, the terrian we hunt in makes it very difficult for even a deer to get top speed. Make no mistake, if you are near the start of a chase with big hounds, you might as well have an empty gun, because the chances of your making the shot on a speeding deer that will be visible for three seconds or less are kind of remote.
However, the deer will quickly outdistance even large hounds, and slow to a loping pace that he can keep up for a very long time. That loping pace is where most of our running deer are shot. As I said before, if you can remember to yell, you probably will be able to stop the deer for a short while, long enough for a quick aimed shot.
 
BIGREDD said:
Again... simple biology my friend... flat out a buck with the after burners on can go 40 mph...60 km. A bounding doe or yearling that is flagging and jumping or is just plain running in front of a threat will pace themselves at about 20mph... 32 km... this is common for deer in front of dogs or doggers! Trotting or jogging but not running/bounding your looking at 10 km + or - a couple, depending on the size of the animal and the geography.:)
This ain't rocket science... and shooting running coyotes is harder but quite do-able. Hunting Coyotes with hounds is the best way to get the experience needed for shooting running deer.:rolleyes:
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Thanks BIGREDD, I thought there would be a logical explanation.:)
 
We shoot gophers...

Thousands of gophers...

My buddies and I would walk along beside each other with our rifles slung on our shoulders...

The idea was to mount the rifle to your shoulder and shoot any gopher that popped up before your buddies could.

I also do a lot of shotgun shooting which helped teach me to lead my shots...
 
John Y Cannuck said:
Very true, plus, the terrian we hunt in makes it very difficult for even a deer to get top speed. Make no mistake, if you are near the start of a chase with big hounds, you might as well have an empty gun, because the chances of your making the shot on a speeding deer that will be visible for three seconds or less are kind of remote.
However, the deer will quickly outdistance even large hounds, and slow to a loping pace that he can keep up for a very long time. That loping pace is where most of our running deer are shot. As I said before, if you can remember to yell, you probably will be able to stop the deer for a short while, long enough for a quick aimed shot.
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& that's why our camp has gone to small beagles, fast enough to keep the deer occupied but slow enough the deer aren't goin by with thier belly on the ground & the afterburners on! Sure there's places in BIG country for BIG hounds but in our 1,300 acre or so hunting area couch potato beagle are the answer.
The old whistle trick is a great one used by lots of experienced hunters, I how-ever prefer the shoot & OH, YA..whistle, whistle :rolleyes: :D
 
OH! & to the guy that asked.
My rifle choice is a M-100 Win carbine with a peep site but since it has been taken over by my son & my eyes aren't what they used to be a M-100 rifle has taken it's place with a 1.5-5 B&L almost permanently set on 1.5X.
A lot of guys like open sites but I find it takes me too long to find the 3 points of reference (rear-front-target) as compared to the scopes & peeps sites 2 points (front or crosshair--target).

For the odd time I might be in treestand on ambush I use a Ruger 77 in 280 with again a 1.5-4.
 
Very interesting how others hunt in different parts of the country. I would highly suspect there is one constant that all hunters be they from east or west would agree on. A "quality shot" is when the odds of success are over whelming in favor of the hunter making a swift and humane kill and anything less would be frowned upon.
 
Camp Cook said:
It is interesting indeed because here in BC if I saw dogs chasing a deer I would shoot the dogs...
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I have zero sympathy for dogs that chase deer. My buddy was hunting when a deer on the verge of collapse stumble by him and he patiently waited. Before long a domestic canine appeared and my buddy had a heart to heart with said canine.
 
walksalot said:
I have zero sympathy for dogs that chase deer. My buddy was hunting when a deer on the verge of collapse stumble by him and he patiently waited. Before long a domestic canine appeared and my buddy had a heart to heart with said canine.
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:onCrack::onCrack::onCrack:

How come its always the guys who are against hunting with dogs that get to see these "near death" due to exhaustion deer..................and the guys who actually hunt with dogs never see it in a lifetime..:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Say, speaking of UNUSUAL coincidences which can only be explained by parallel versions of the universe............:rolleyes:

My TRADER RATING is the same as the calibre of the gun I want to sell. How cool is that!!!!:cool:

Gee, I hope I need to sell a .458 Mag or maybe a .600 Nitro one of these days............. :rockOn:

Doug
 
There is way too many dogs around these days. The pounds are full and there are too many citizens that shouldn't own dogs that do.

...........i'd pull the trigger on a mutt in a heartbeat if it irked me.
 
Doug we see it often here in the winters, rez dogs off the lower rez pack up and the channel between burns and decker is right there for them to run the lakes, and yes they take there toll on game, but this is not trained dogs for hunting either just a pack of wild mutts
 
gth said:
:onCrack::onCrack::onCrack:

How come its always the guys who are against hunting with dogs that get to see these "near death" due to exhaustion deer..................and the guys who actually hunt with dogs never see it in a lifetime..:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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OFFS, the dogs I am referring to are dogs not in an controlled environment. These dogs are chasing deer elk and moose while the owners are at work or the owners figure their pet is out for a hike. I have seen deer and moose with patches of hide ripped off by dogs. A friend called me because a couple of dogs had an elk pinned up against the side of his house. I grabbed my rifle but the dogs took off. I even tracked a dog back to the residence and informed the owner his dog was living on borrowed time.:mad:

Oh, but I don't know what I am talking about, do I.:rolleyes:
 
John Y Cannuck said:
Sealhunter.
I might be able to make your 75 yard tire shot. Might not too.
I see you still don't grasp the fact, that most of my deer have been shot running, and within 100 FEET. Can I see 75 yards where I hunt? Sometimes. Can I see a deer at that distance? Almost never. The terrain is so up and down, that even without trees, a deer could pass within a hundred yards without being seen in many places. With trees, he could, and does pass much closer. I've shot deer at ten feet several times. Incidentally, many of my deer have been one shot kills. However, given the terrain I hunt in, I believe in shooting until the game is on the ground.
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This is much the same in north central Saskatchewan. The bush is thick, and the medows small. We can't use hounds to push deer, we push them with other hunters. I've tried to push a smart old buck out of a small thicket (about 100 yards in diameter). I was on my hands and knees going thru the bush, look over and see the buck on his belly crawling the other direction. When the deer do push out of the bush, they are at a pretty good run heading for the next thicket.

We use baloons to practice as well, we just don't tie them to anything. The bounce and float of the baloon going across a stubble field is a challenging shot that doesn't get easier with distance.

I like the tire idea as it will bounce randomly like a WT does.
 
Camp Cook said:
It is interesting indeed because here in BC if I saw dogs chasing a deer I would shoot the dogs...
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Just wondering, can you shoot a dog on the dog owner's private land for chasing wildlife? Seems like a pretty gutsy move to me, and down right confrontational.
 
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