Fit vs Fundamentals

[Slavex]

Bob might love the grip angle on the Glock and hunk it gives him all those wonderful things he likes, but I beat him on stage in Norway so I must be better right? Lol
Seriously, if you trained with Bob you'd understand where he's coming from regarding the grip angle and what he does on the pistol, it in no way should be used to judge what you can do with a Glock though.

 

[Toto]

Seriously, if you trained with Bob you'd understand where he's coming from regarding the grip angle and what he does on the pistol, it in no way should be used to judge what you can do with a Glock though.

Care to elaborate?

 

[TDC]

I envision ergonomics and fit as being similar....but this is just semantics at this point.

The grip angle is the one reason I have shot glocks for so long. I find it very easy to point and shoot.

I think that's half the problem, the confusion between "fit", ergonomics, and proper grip. Those who don't know any better will use "fit" as in how it feels, the personal comfort level as their guide. It is this "fit" that has zero effect on performance and should be all but discounted. Reaching the trigger with a proper grip is a proper fit for applying the fundamentals, and the design ergonomics of the firearm are what make it possible. As an extreme example the Desert Eagle has horrible design ergonomics with regards to fundamental fit. Most people can't access the trigger properly or the slide mounted safety. In summary, how a gun "feels" is not a useful criteria for selecting one and it has no effect on performance.

TDC

 

[GunGuy34]

I envision ergonomics and fit as being similar....but this is just semantics at this point.

The grip angle is the one reason I have shot glocks for so long. I find it very easy to point and shoot.

I agree, i find it hard to understand why anybody would complain about the grip angle of a glock, its such an easy shooting and pointing firearm. Its like an extension of your arm. Once you get the trigger time in, its the best gun on the market today imo.

 

[TDC]

I agree, i find it hard to understand why anybody would complain about the grip angle of a glock, its such an easy shooting and pointing firearm. Its like an extension of your arm. Once you get the trigger time in, its the best gun on the market today imo.

Remember, those who complain are usually those with near zero experience with handguns and almost certainly no professional training. They simply don't know what they don't know.

TDC

 

[Clobbersauras]

Remember, those who complain are usually those with near zero experience with handguns and almost certainly no professional training. They simply don't know what they don't know.

TDC

I use a grip force adapter to help change the grip angle of my Glock (It tends to naturally point high for me otherwise). And lots of guys
are doing grip angle mods and stippling for the Glock as well.

I also changed the sights and put some skateboard tape on the top of the slide, because the Glock finish is far to slippery for me to do a proper press check, especially when my hands are sweaty.

My point? Once you get a good grasp of the fundamentals, setting the gun up for your physiology does help somewhat.

 

[TDC]

I use a grip force adapter to help change the grip angle of my Glock (It tends to naturally point high for me otherwise). And lots of guys out there are doing grip angle mods and stippling for the Glock as well.

I also changed the sights and put some skateboard tape on the slide, because the Glock finish is far to slippery for me to do a proper press check, especially when my hands are sweaty.

My point? Once you get a better grasp of the fundamentals, setting the gun up for your physiology does help somewhat.

Mastering the fundamentals is the priority and you're right. Minor comfort changes can help but are not necessary and should be done after mastering the fundamentals. Most don't understand the fundamentals let alone have a firm grasp of them.

As for press checks, they're unnecessary with an lci equipped pistol. A less intrusive method is to drop the magazine and check the witness holes. Personally I trust the design that it will chamber a round when I seat a full magazine and work the slide. But that's a whole different topic.

Tdc

 

[Clobbersauras]

^^Glock's LCI is a joke.

It really is.

I'll never rely on it to prove a round is or is not in the chamber...but I'll start another thread before I derail this one any more.

 

[GunGuy34]

^^Glock's LCI is a joke.

It really is.

I'll never rely on it to prove a round is or is not in the chamber...but I'll start another thread before I derail this one any more.

I never understood the point of the LCI's anyhow. You should remember if you chambered a round or not. With Glocks, if the trigger if all the way to the rear then its obvious, there is nothing in the chamber, if the trigger is forward then you have to safety check it. Seems like a hollywood thing, watching Crocket check his pistol to see if he chambered a round, meanwhile carrying it all day.