Five Pre-64 Model 70 Magnums

Rod said:
I and many others have been using those Weaver bases and rings for a very long time and, if properly installed, they work perfectly. As with any rings and bases they must be properly installed.
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Indeed! ..... Nothing wrong with Weaver R&B. The gear snobs hate them but not for good reason. They are quite dependable and do look right on classic old rifles such as yours. I've used them for years as well on everything up to 375 magnums with nary a problem.

Very nice collection you have there.
 
the spank said:
But then they would lose the classic look of the era those rifles were born in.
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You're right!

Please see below a 721 in 300H&H done right with proper R&B and beater gloss 4x scope. I would never put Talley LWs and a matte scope on this rifle.

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guntech said:
The pre 64 Model 70 stocks were never designed for scope use... they fit the iron sights very well.
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Dennis the pre-64 stocks work very well with both the NRA low comb stock and the later high comb stock. . I've been using them for many years and found them ideal in both low and high comb stocks. The idea is to mount the scope low to the receiver and not sticking up high on the gun. High mount rings or those see thru rings don't work worth a hoot. . With the scope mounted properly I bring the gun up and the eye relief is easy and spot on every time. Have a look at Super Cub's Remington 721 he's got the height right and the gun looks neat and tidy.
 
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The only thing wrong with the old weaver rings is that it's a bit of a pita to get the scope leveled. Once you have everything squared away they work as well as any other ring. I don't even mind the looks of them, and I prefer the older ones with the big fat thumbscrews.
 
I like talleys but no way would I put them on those rifles. The weavers or some redfields of that era are perfect IMO.
 
9.3mauser said:
The only thing wrong with the old weaver rings is that it's a bit of a pita to get the scope leveled. Once you have everything squared away they work as well as any other ring. I don't even mind the looks of them, and I prefer the older ones with the big fat thumbscrews.
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How you guys ever get old-style Weavers to be level is beyond me...the minute you tighten the screws, the scope twists slightly and the reticle is off level...I gave up on that nonsense about 40 years ago.
 
9.3mauser said:
The only thing wrong with the old weaver rings is that it's a bit of a pita to get the scope leveled. Once you have everything squared away they work as well as any other ring. I don't even mind the looks of them, and I prefer the older ones with the big fat thumbscrews.
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All very classic beautiful rifles, then again I have a always loved and used M-70's so I am prejudice. Presently I have four, 243, 30-06, 300 H&H, 375 H&H. My first M-70 that I carried for 26 yrs had a Weaver 2.5 x 7 Wide view, a classic steel scope, held on with Weaver rings and bases. The rings with the big steel thumb screw. Leveling the cross hairs can be tricky and time consuming but once set there set for life. I leveled my cross hairs by tilting them in the opposite direction, tightening the screws would turn them level. Took a little trial and error. The Weaver rings and bases are simple but extremely sturdy and reliable. For DANS40X to make the comment he did shows his inexperience and lack of knowledge on the subject.
 
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mrgoat said:
A Leveling the cross hairs can be tricky and time consuming but once set there set for life. I leveled my cross hairs by tilting them in the opposite direction, tightening the screws would turn them level. Took a little trial and error.
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I've done the same, back when I used Weavers, but it always seemed very imprecise and way more work than it was worth, expecially since there are so many better options.
 
Where did you find such fine examples of early model 70's?They all appear mint'.I have owned a few in my day .My favorite was a 264 westerner late 1958 manufacture,kept it for over 45 years before I let it go .Shot a lot of deer with that gun.
 
G.E.FLACH said:
Where did you find such fine examples of early model 70's?They all appear mint'.I have owned a few in my day .My favorite was a 264 westerner late 1958 manufacture,kept it for over 45 years before I let it go .Shot a lot of deer with that gun.
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I've owned, hunted with and collected the pre-64 M70 for a long time. . Part of the enjoyment is upgrading when opportunity allows. . Over the years I've managed to upgrade to 16 of them in excellent condition. . I've most likely over paid on more than a few occasions, when I was fortunate to find one in pristine condition, but the upgrade cost is soon forgotten. . And yes I've shot them all, have plenty of ammo for each one and have RCBS dies for every caliber. . Lately I've been using my F/W's more for hunting but the 300 H&H is still my favorite.
 
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I have personally owned three super grade's ,270,30-06,300 h&h as well as a 338 alaskan and a 375 H&H could never bring myself to hunt with any of them except the 264 westerner .They were too nice. Still have a soft spot for pre 64 M 70'S
 
I really want to like the pre-64 Winchester Model 70s, but every one I have ever picked up seemed too heavy and a bit awkward. I may be getting weaker in my old age, but I can remember decades ago when I first picked up one of the so called "featherweights" and being surprised by its excess weight.
 
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Rob to fully appreciate a pre-64 M70 you'll need to shoot one. . You'll soon learn the balance points and it'll feel good in your hands but when you're sitting at the bench at your range hunkered over looking through the scope and you touch off a round you'll soon appreciate the NRA stock design as the recoil is pleasant compared to other rifle designs and makes. Everything is just right with it. The 338 WM is one to keep your cheek tight on the stock or it'll let you have a good slap. The 375 is very manageable as the push comes straight back. The 300 H&H is a pure delight and just a pleasure to shoot. I mainly use the Winchester military type shoulder strap as it's fully adjustable on the go if you figure out how to use it and allows the rifle to be easily carried. With all these positive points, the weight of the rifle is just fine with me. The only one of my pre-64's I find too heavy for packing around is my 220 Swift with a 15x Supertarget Spot Scope with a heavy stainless barrel and heavy scope. .
 
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