Flashlight mount for over/under shotgun

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i'm cosidering buying a Stoeger Outback over/under shotgun and I'd like to mount a flashlight on the side of the barrels about halfway between the forearm and muzzle (maybe even as close as possible). Anybody mounted a flashlight to an over/under and, if so, how'd you do it?

Thanks.
 
Any chance you'd consider the Stoeger Coach gun? just seems so much more fitting for a project like this... lol. And oh yes, Ranger Band plus 1.
 
Ranger band.

Any chance you'd consider the Stoeger Coach gun? just seems so much more fitting for a project like this... lol. And oh yes, Ranger Band plus 1.

You must mean like the 5th photo from the left of the flashlight being held against a shotgun' barrel and tube-magazine on the following site.
https://bravocompanyusa.com/gearward-ranger-bands-20-pack-vbost-appplication/

I must say, that might do the trick. I'd want to have some kind of cushion between the flashlight and the barrels. With this setup, how much is the flashlight going to move on each shot?

I don't know exactly why, but I'd rather have o/u than SxS; just personal preference.
 
I just took a look at the Outback. Which version are you considering? The tactical version has rails perfect for mounting lights. If the wood version then ranger band. Actually two. One over the barrels first then another over the light. No scratch and grip all around the light.
 
I just took a look at the Outback. Which version are you considering? The tactical version has rails perfect for mounting lights. If the wood version then ranger band. Actually two. One over the barrels first then another over the light. No scratch and grip all around the light.
Yes, that may do the tirck, but those bands are going to have to hold TIGHT.

https://www.stoegerindustries.com/over-and-under-shotguns

The two at the bottom have lights attached. If that's your jam, get it straight from them. Otherwise you might find someone who will 3D Print you a rail you could fit over the barrels. You'd need to print that in at LEAST PETG, probably Nylon or ABS.
Yes, I've also been considering the Double Defense O/U:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mCTbWCkS3Y

I already have a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot, so the DD would be a pretty good choice, but I don't know how useful the red dot would be in an invasion situation. Maybe the onboard sights would be better. But whichever one I get, it has to look, how to put it, very tame and have a tame-sounding name (you already know why) and the wood-furnitured "Outback" really fills the bill in that regard, while the DD may look a bit too military or "offensive" for Parliamentary tastes. The break action will also be perfect because I'd take it apart in order to get it into our smallish, cube-shaped safe. I figure an O/U shotgun is going to be one of the very last firearms to be banned. Therefore, maybe I'll get ten years of ownership.
 
You do what's best for you, but I'm not going to temper my purchases based on some ###### in Ottawa who doesn't know #### about guns. You do you, join the CCFR and fight for the right to enjoy it.

As for this project, your first scenario is incredibly unlikely in most of Canada unless you're dealing with the wrong crowd first. Since you're asking questions here, I'm hoping you're not :). Pretending that you already have the Outback, I think I'd contact Stoeger and ask if you can purchase their side rail separately. If that's not an option I'd look to the 3D printing world. I do a little bit at home here and the new machines are capable of printing quite well out of the box. A little bit of modeling in CAD and you could probably print something for you. Just a quick sketch; https://ibb.co/Kb4gwmd
 
I wonder if you just order the rail for the DD and have the Outback drilled and tapped to accept it?
AFAICT, the two rails have macine screws that pull the two rails together, not into anything between the barrels, but I might very well be wrong on that. The Outback has quite a space between the two barrels that runs pretty much entire length of the barrels. I believe it is wide enough for screws and plastic housing to fit into it at the smallest point in the gap, but on the DD maybe there is some metal all the way between the barrels and the rails screw into that. If the latter is the case, there's no way to use the DD's rails on the Outback (without doing crazy welding and drilling and tapping and there's no effing way I'm doing that).

You do what's best for you, but I'm not going to temper my purchases based on some ###### in Ottawa who doesn't know #### about guns. You do you, join the CCFR and fight for the right to enjoy it.

As for this project, your first scenario is incredibly unlikely in most of Canada unless you're dealing with the wrong crowd first. Since you're asking questions here, I'm hoping you're not :). Pretending that you already have the Outback, I think I'd contact Stoeger and ask if you can purchase their side rail separately. If that's not an option I'd look to the 3D printing world. I do a little bit at home here and the new machines are capable of printing quite well out of the box. A little bit of modeling in CAD and you could probably print something for you. Just a quick sketch; https://ibb.co/Kb4gwmd
FWIW, I joined the CCFR just last week or the week before. I think they're doing a fantastic job. I hope that the banned list stops growing or the CCFR action kills what ignorant govt. ministers think wil make the world a better place, but, as much as I'd like to get the DD, just to be on the safe side, I'd buy the gun that will, again, be one of the last banned IF the list keeps on growing and the CCFR action does not succeed (I do not give a s..t WHAT the PM says; in Canada, politics and poltiicians like the PM defininitely DO "meddle" in the course of justice -- SNC Lavalin, for just one easy-to-remember example.)

Thanks for the printing offer (I think you offered, but "you could probably print something for you" threw me for a bit of a loop). Nice preliminary sketch. If I can't find a solution via the rubber bands, I'll get back to you after I get the gun.

Speaking of which, first thing to get - the gun. Stoeger has a $50 coupon for purchases made before June 30.

BTW, I agee with you that the likelihood of a break-in is remote. That being said, however, our neighborhood's residents have had some thefts from their vehicles and our neighbor directly across the street had someone break into his home a few years ago while neither he nor his son were at home, and that someone stole some tools and hockey equipment. Of course that was pre-Covid days. (After that incident, some cops knocked on some doors in our neighborhood and warned people to be on the lookout. That was a bit of a jolt. "To be on the lookout" and do just exactly what?) There are now a lot of unemployed people and their perhaps-increasing economic desperation may just drive them to the point of breaking into homes. Who knows? My wife and I are retired and are home 98% of the time. Let's put it this way -- we're not getting any younger.

Back to the flashlight. I'm thinking that something like the following might be useable:
https://www.amazon.ca/Elzetta-Tactical-Shotgun-Flashlight-Mount/dp/B004R5V47C
From the photos, it looks like it installs without having to remove anything from the gun -- in that ad's case, a pump shotgun. It looks like you simply stack parts on either side of the (in an O/U's case) barrels, line up the holes, insert the screws and tighten everything together, against the barrels presumably.

But I'll start off with the rubber bands and take it from there.

Thanks very much to all of you for your suggestions and advice.
 
FWIW, I joined the CCFR just last week or the week before. I think they're doing a fantastic job. I hope that the banned list stops growing or the CCFR action kills what ignorant govt. ministers think wil make the world a better place, but, as much as I'd like to get the DD, just to be on the safe side, I'd buy the gun that will, again, be one of the last banned IF the list keeps on growing and the CCFR action does not succeed (I do not give a s..t WHAT the PM says; in Canada, politics and poltiicians like the PM defininitely DO "meddle" in the course of justice -- SNC Lavalin, for just one easy-to-remember example.)

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Back to the flashlight. I'm thinking that something like the following might be useable:
https://www.amazon.ca/Elzetta-Tactical-Shotgun-Flashlight-Mount/dp/B004R5V47C
From the photos, it looks like it installs without having to remove anything from the gun -- in that ad's case, a pump shotgun. It looks like you simply stack parts on either side of the (in an O/U's case) barrels, line up the holes, insert the screws and tighten everything together, against the barrels presumably.

Thanks very much to all of you for your suggestions and advice.

Happy to hear you're on board. That light solution is much cleaner than anything printed. Injection molded, much cleaner. Honestly I didn't even know that existed and would use one myself over 3D printing. It's not easy to make strong parts on these machines, which is why I laugh when 'they' say you can now 3D print a gun. Technically you can, but its safer and cheaper to buy a Girsan.
 
That last thing I did before I went to bed last night was contact Stoeger via email about the possibility of using the DD's side rails on the Outback. Imagine my surprise when the first thing I received when I got up this morning and checked our email was a one-sentence reply from a Stoeger representative; but, unfortunately, the reply was not what I had hoped.

"Where the Outback has an open space between the barrels there is no place to bond or attach the mount."

Se there it is. There is no way to install the DD rails on an Outback or, presumably, any other O/U shotgun that has a space between the two barrels.

AFAICT, the DDs no longer have the synthetic furniture option. Wood furniture only, and that wood is "finished" black. My question is: what's the unfinished color of the wood? I would not be surprised if it's the same wood and, therefore, has the same unfinished color as the Outback. Since being black is, quite ironically to me, no longer one of the desirable "features" of a gun (while being the exact opposite of that of a human), I could buy the DD with all of its three rails and refinish the wood, keeping the checkering exactly as it is, which may acutally result in an attractive combination, even to a liberal MP of any of the, what is it up to now, 10 PC ###es. IMO doing this would be far less extreme (downright crazy) than doing "whatever it takes" to install those DD rails on an outback.

While I'm at it, is there any such thing as naturally-black wood, short of the ebony that you see on older piano's black keys? I doubt like H that Stoeger would be using naturally-black wood for their DD furniture. As the decades of wear inevitably happen, I'm willing to bet that the worn areas of the stock and forearm are going to get much lighter. What do you think?

Completely OT edit: If you did not watch Global National last evening (maybe all of them during the day), try to catch Mercedes Stephenson's report on the CCFR's legal action against the OIC and the ever expanding number of prohibited weapons. For an MSM piece, I think that it does a fairly good job of being "balanced". You can still catch it, as of right now, anyway, here (at about 16 minutes, 30 seconds into the video):
https://q107.com/news/1148831/watch-global-national/
 
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Something obvious to everyone else has just struck my brain. It doesn't matter at all what color the finish is on my own DD. What matters is what color the MODEL, overall, is. IF the DD is banned because of its color, my nicely re-finished gun will also be prohibited, no matter if it's re-finished shocking pink. Sorry for my stupidity. Back to square one.
 
I have used rubber bands to temporarily attach a flashlight until our mount arrives, hopefully in the near future.
(BTW, how do I attach a jpeg from my computer? A picture is worth a thousand words, or, in my case, several thousand words.)
 
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