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Ok here is the question

I will be in Las Vegas in two weeks and want to bring back a flint lock pistol.
Can I??
If I can is there paper work that is needed?
Is a pistol kit ok?

Help a guy out

Don
 
Best plan is , talk to an importer like Prophet Arms or whoever is local to you. They'll coach you on what works / doesn't work. Maybe you can pick out something there that you like and make arrangements to get it shipped up & transfered by a broker.
But bring back...I'm thinking not.
Be prepared from a long wait if you are importing a firearm. I'm sitting at 6 months now on my order. Remember; it's Gov't agencies. There is no rythme nor reason sometimes. If you arn't in a hurry, go for it.
If you are in a hurry; spend the extra money and buy Canadian
 
Marstar,

But a really great selection and really helpful people are also the Guys at loyalist arms they have alot of really cool stuff just google them.

Mclean
 
A kit is not a functional firearm and should be uncontrolled. Muzzleloader stuff has escaped the notice of Homeland Security and is not considered a firearm at all as far as American law goes.

Not all the border people that you run into are necessarily going to be that well informed though so you will want to find some paperwork to back that up at the Canadian side.

It will have to be registered when it reaches operational condition.
 
A kit is not a functional firearm and should be uncontrolled.

That depends on what type of kit it is. If it is a cap & ball revolver kit, it has a receiver, and that receiver is a firearm by the time it reaches the border, so it can't come in without the proper export/import documents. If it is a single-shot muzzleloader type, it is still iffy about whether or not it could come in. I would say not, unless it slipped through.
 
Check out h ttp://therifleshoppe.com/. I have ordered a flinlock musket from them and the reproductions are top notch. They have a gaggle of flintlock pistol kits. You should be able to import a pistol kit as long as the vent is not drilled in the pistol barrel. You should be able to bring it in -- in a kit form it is but a collection of metal and wood pieces. They are sold as kits -- you have to put it together. Some kits are easier to put together than others.

Other suppliers of flintlock pistols in Canada are w ww.militaryheritage.com in the Toronto area and Loyalist arms in Nova Scotia. They sell complete pistols, without the drilled vent.

Reproduction flintlocks are considered historical firearms and are not subject to the firearms legislation and do not need to registered.

Cheers!
 
Correction - flintlock muskets do not neet to be registerd. Working flintlock pistols with the vent drilled is a restricted firearm...sorry.
 
You can bring a flintlock long gun, but not handguns. Haven't seen kits in gun shops for eons.
"...A kit is not a functional firearm..." Neither is a frame for a 1911, but it's still registered.
"...have to be registered when it reaches operational condition..." A handgun kit has to be registered when it comes into the country.
 
I'm starting to sound like a salesman for thegunworks, but have no affiliation with them.
They have this pistol for $575 which their gunbuilder makes for them with their own barrels (formerly Sharon barrel co.)

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AFAIK you can buy the pistol, have it registered, then have it shipped to you with the enclosed reg. cert. A call to the CFC would verify that.
Cheers nessy.
 
You can bring a flintlock long gun, but not handguns. Haven't seen kits in gun shops for eons.
"...A kit is not a functional firearm..." Neither is a frame for a 1911, but it's still registered.
"...have to be registered when it reaches operational condition..." A handgun kit has to be registered when it comes into the country.

Which part of a flinter is the frame again? :rolleyes:

I have seen complete sets of parts for flint pistols from Track of the Wolf mail-ordered to Canada on at least a couple occasions with no trouble. Registration was done upon assembly.

True these were not boxed brand-name labelled "kits" but they did include all the parts including "brass castings", "machined parts" and a pipe that was plugged at one end. :eek:

There is nothing preventing a person from getting it registered before it is mailed though explaining the whole situation to the dealer and the CFC could be a pain. By all means call the CFC for an official response on how they would like you to go about it if you are concerned.

Because black powder guns aren't on the Homeland Security list of evil items things will be a lot simpler than with other types of guns whichever way a person goes about it.
 
A couple months ago I ordered a percussion pistol lock, stock and 12" barrel, with some other fittings, from Muzzle Loader Builder's Supply in Idaho and could have just as easily got the parts from T-O-T-W. No hassle whatsoever - the package arrived at my post office and I paid the GST and took it home. Doesn't have to be registered until capable of being fired, according to the advice I got from CFC. A couple of weeks ago, when I went to register it on line CFC wanted to know the serial number on the "receiver", of which there was neither, of course. So I explained this and once they understood, they were happy to know that the barrel was from Green Mtn. and they will now send me the serial no. sticker to put on it or I can stamp the numbers into the barrel. What they seemed to want was to put the ID serial no. on the most prominent part of the gun and agreed with me that the barrel met that expectation. My long term plan is to get a second barrel and flint lock to interchange into the stock and for this I will get a second serial; no. for the flintlock barrel, since the ignition system is different. They seemed to want to know that the barrel was commercially made, rather than something I made myself (would that make me a manufacturer and subject to different rules, I wonder? Anyway - no sweat importing the pistol parts....
good luck.
 
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they will now send me the serial no. sticker to put on it or I can stamp the numbers into the barrel.

They seemed to want to know that the barrel was commercially made, rather than something I made myself (would that make me a manufacturer.

Those "serial numbers" are used in lieu of FRT numbers since the gun is a one of a kind, sort of. While it looks like many others, it was assembled by you and cannot carry a FRT number for a commercially produced gun. If you were to search the FRT tables for that number, you would get no results.
As long as you do not manufacture a gun for commercial sale, you are not a manufacturer and do not require a manufacturer's license. You can however sell the gun after a reasonable length of time or at least I have sold a gun several years ago (percussion rifle) that was listed as "home made" under manufacturer

cheers mooncoon
 
I too have sold a couple of my so-called "home-made" percussion longrifles with no problems from CFC when doing the initial registering or later with the transfer.
 
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