flintlock rifle kit
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NorthCoastBigBore
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Wholesale and Cabellas at one time carried the Lyman GPR kits (I bought mine in the early '90s from Wholesale) but not much luck on these lately from those folks.
We've been hearing that Hillfolk Musket Supply(??) from Saskatchewan may have kits - but unfortunately they don't have a website.
No problem at all bringing them up from the U.S.A. (Track of the Wolf has amazing selection, also look at Sitting Fox, Dixie, there are a bunch of them) - however with the falling Loonie, well I think we are all feeling that pain at the checkout. Track (USA) does carry the kits as well as the parts so you can build your own from the ground up.
We've been hearing that Hillfolk Musket Supply(??) from Saskatchewan may have kits - but unfortunately they don't have a website.
No problem at all bringing them up from the U.S.A. (Track of the Wolf has amazing selection, also look at Sitting Fox, Dixie, there are a bunch of them) - however with the falling Loonie, well I think we are all feeling that pain at the checkout. Track (USA) does carry the kits as well as the parts so you can build your own from the ground up.
infideleggwelder
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ask around on here, i got mine from a fellow CGNer. post a want ad. someones got a pile of parts they`re never going to get to and might sell.
eaglesnester
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GO to track of the wolf in the states and order yourself a 54 caliber flintlock in a Great Planes kit. The Great Planes kit has a 1in60 twist which is optimized for round ball. While yur at it also order a 54 caliber bullet mold, furnace, and lead ladle. I would also order some pre cut patches in .018 and .020 thou. You can lube em with lard, either vegetable or animal. You will also need a 54 caliber cleaning jag and a range rod with the proper thread size either 10/22 or 8/22 to fit your jag. Go to their web site and they will list everything U need.
The Lyman kits are basically sand, finish, and assemble, very easy. Dont forget to order the proper sized flints, they have a section on flints with recommended sizes for the various bands of locks. You have much to learn, take it slow and read lots. There are numerous muzzle loading black powder forums with lots of useful posts and friendly members who are only too happy to answer a newbs questions. I recommended the 54 because it is just as good as the 50 only more better, more knock em down if U intend to hunt.
Now as to yur black powder, it is very difficult to get in Canada because of all the regulations. It can be found but you will have to research it. One source could be your muzzle loading clubs and rendezvous, where they dress in mountain man period clothes and reenact the different periods of Canadian and American 18th and 19th Century. Some of the guys there do sell powder, The artificial or synthetic powders such as pyrodex and tripple 7 do not work in rock lock rifles unless you do a binary charge. 5grains of 3f holy black first down the muzzle then 65 grains or so of trip 7 or pyrodex and 3f real black powder in the pan. THat is one way of making your hard one holy black last longer.
The Lyman kits are basically sand, finish, and assemble, very easy. Dont forget to order the proper sized flints, they have a section on flints with recommended sizes for the various bands of locks. You have much to learn, take it slow and read lots. There are numerous muzzle loading black powder forums with lots of useful posts and friendly members who are only too happy to answer a newbs questions. I recommended the 54 because it is just as good as the 50 only more better, more knock em down if U intend to hunt.
Now as to yur black powder, it is very difficult to get in Canada because of all the regulations. It can be found but you will have to research it. One source could be your muzzle loading clubs and rendezvous, where they dress in mountain man period clothes and reenact the different periods of Canadian and American 18th and 19th Century. Some of the guys there do sell powder, The artificial or synthetic powders such as pyrodex and tripple 7 do not work in rock lock rifles unless you do a binary charge. 5grains of 3f holy black first down the muzzle then 65 grains or so of trip 7 or pyrodex and 3f real black powder in the pan. THat is one way of making your hard one holy black last longer.
Lyman has pretty much priced themselves right out of the market (my opinion).
I have order (for 2016) some GPR and Trade Rifles in percussion - they are not cheap anymore.
Their kits are not much better - with the buck in the tank a GPR kit from Lyman would be on the shelf at somewhere in the $850 range - yes, the "kit" and Lyman won't ship any model (kit or finished gun) unless you take a minimum of 5 of that model.
That is often too much of an investment from any smaller dealer to tie up in something with (at least at present) very little demand.
I kinda took a flier on the 5 GPR's and 5 Trade Rifles (finished percussion rifles) I ordered "hoping" that the movie The Revenant might stir up a little interest.
As some of the guys have suggested. If you are really wanting one - particularly the "insert part A into slot B" type kits your best bet would be one of the Lyman kits from Track of the Wolf or one of the many kits carried by Dixie.
Most of the builders kits are basically a chunk of wood that has been about 80% shaped and inlet, with a box of parts and "no instructions".
And yes, real black can be challenging to find. I get mine in Waterloo Ontario (I have to travel there twice a year, so stock up when I'm there). Cabela's has it sometimes but if you need to ship the haz fees double the cost per pound.
I have order (for 2016) some GPR and Trade Rifles in percussion - they are not cheap anymore.
Their kits are not much better - with the buck in the tank a GPR kit from Lyman would be on the shelf at somewhere in the $850 range - yes, the "kit" and Lyman won't ship any model (kit or finished gun) unless you take a minimum of 5 of that model.
That is often too much of an investment from any smaller dealer to tie up in something with (at least at present) very little demand.
I kinda took a flier on the 5 GPR's and 5 Trade Rifles (finished percussion rifles) I ordered "hoping" that the movie The Revenant might stir up a little interest.
As some of the guys have suggested. If you are really wanting one - particularly the "insert part A into slot B" type kits your best bet would be one of the Lyman kits from Track of the Wolf or one of the many kits carried by Dixie.
Most of the builders kits are basically a chunk of wood that has been about 80% shaped and inlet, with a box of parts and "no instructions".
And yes, real black can be challenging to find. I get mine in Waterloo Ontario (I have to travel there twice a year, so stock up when I'm there). Cabela's has it sometimes but if you need to ship the haz fees double the cost per pound.
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You can have it shipped to Canada from the US. Have a look at US makers websites. There are 1/2 doz gun makers that make kits of various types.
Good luck
NorthCoastBigBore
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Shippings never been a deal breaker, I've spent a couple grand at TOTW over the past couple of years. If I checked my receipts the heaviest package (probably with a barrel etc) was approaching $100 including duty. BUT as I mention above, it's that exchange rate right now that's going to hurt. You are looking at a 30-40% increase at the checkout.
Try Wholesale Sports or Cabelas. They used to have them on their website but they don't anymore. I was in Saskatoon at Christmas and thought I would ask at Wholesale. They pulled out a Lyman Great Plains Rifle flintlock kit wit with the 1 in 60 inch twist barrel. After cleaning off the thick layer of dust they checked the computer and it was $539.99 + tax. Seemed like a bargain to me.
I am completely new to blackpowder but from what I understand the barrel twist is only suitable for round ball and not conical or sabots. Lyman does sell barrel with faster twist.
I am completely new to blackpowder but from what I understand the barrel twist is only suitable for round ball and not conical or sabots. Lyman does sell barrel with faster twist.
I too would be looking south of the border. There is a wide variety in quality and authenticity. If you are looking for top quality and authenticity, I suggest you check out Jim Chambers Flintlocks. You couldn't ask for nicer folks than Jim and Barbie.
