FN 5.7 x 28
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rommelrommel
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Wow, virutally every rifle round is prohibited
Armor piercing PISTOL ammo is prohibited, however that term is rather loosely defined... and as soon as there is a rifle that shoots the ammo registered in Canada it's no longer pistol ammo. And, as stated, there are PS90's in Canada, so 5.7x28 is no longer AP pistol ammo. The milspec ammo designed to defeat CRISAT might be a hard sell, but it's nearly impossible to get anyways last time I checked.
FRT# 125118-1 - PS90 - RESTRICTED - SEMI AUTOMATIC - RIFLE - 5RD - 16.1" BARREL - (under extra info in FRT table: Fires 5.7x28MM NON-AP)
FRT# 125118-2 - PS90 - RESTRICTED - SEMI AUTOMATIC - RIFLE - 5RD - 10.3" BARREL - (under extra info in FRT table: Fires 5.7x28MM NON-AP)
FRT# 125118-3 - PS90 - NON-RESTRICTED - SEMI AUTOMATIC - RIFLE - 5RD - 18.6" BARREL - (under extra info in FRT table: Fires 5.7x28MM NON-AP)
rommelrommel
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There is a non-restricted PS-90 in Canada ????
Why not tho? There are non-resticted CX4's... just need a longer barrel.
What are the odds eh?
You cannot get the ammo into Canada. It's funny how this thread just popped back up. Let me tell you what happened to me this morning...
I've been working on LEGALLY importing a large quantity of 195 and 197 for quite some time now. I filled out the proper Form 13 to request an application for import permit. A couple weeks later I get a call saying that 5.7x28mm FMJ and JHP ammunition cannot be imported into Canada on the basis that "FN Herstal has informed us [NRC/ERD] that 5.7x28mm ammunition is restricted to law enforcement or military use only."
Well what the hell? It's nice to see that private Belgium companies can write laws in Canada! That's pretty much what it is. After two weeks of arguing the point that it is not prohibited in Canada, they still denied me. My final declination from the inspector of explosives showed up just a few hours ago.
Beautiful eh? Forms were all filled out and submitted correctly, and after speaking with the fellow in charge twice I even sent him the link to FN USA's website where they state FMJ, JHP and inert rounds are for civillian sporting use! So what now? What do I do? I'm under the impression that the chief inspector of explosives is the head honcho when it comes to importing ammunition.
You cannot get the ammo into Canada. It's funny how this thread just popped back up. Let me tell you what happened to me this morning...
I've been working on LEGALLY importing a large quantity of 195 and 197 for quite some time now. I filled out the proper Form 13 to request an application for import permit. A couple weeks later I get a call saying that 5.7x28mm FMJ and JHP ammunition cannot be imported into Canada on the basis that "FN Herstal has informed us [NRC/ERD] that 5.7x28mm ammunition is restricted to law enforcement or military use only."
Well what the hell? It's nice to see that private Belgium companies can write laws in Canada! That's pretty much what it is. After two weeks of arguing the point that it is not prohibited in Canada, they still denied me. My final declination from the inspector of explosives showed up just a few hours ago.
Beautiful eh? Forms were all filled out and submitted correctly, and after speaking with the fellow in charge twice I even sent him the link to FN USA's website where they state FMJ, JHP and inert rounds are for civillian sporting use! So what now? What do I do? I'm under the impression that the chief inspector of explosives is the head honcho when it comes to importing ammunition.
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If I were you I'd get in contact with someone higher up in the FN USA management. There are tonnes of PS90's in the States, I'm sure they have no problem getting the right ammunition. Make sure to point out to them that the ammunition you'd like to get is the sporting round ammunition, NOT the armour piercing ammunition.
After that, either get them to call the people responsible for the permits, or get them to write a letter, and you can use that.
After that, either get them to call the people responsible for the permits, or get them to write a letter, and you can use that.
"...ALL ARMOR PIERCING ROUNDS OR AMMO ARE ILLEGAL..." Whoever told you that is confused.
"...you do not need Ap in a rifle because it has the penetration..." AP, in a rifle, is for penetrating light armour plate and modern military body armour.
Not all rifle bullets are made to penetrate either. Varmint bullets, for example, are made to expand rapidly upon impact with little penetration. It's why they're no good for deer hunting in cartridges like the .243, et al. Bullets designed for larger game are made to expand after penetrating.
Some handgun bullets are made to penetrate too. Bullets used, Stateside, for hunting with a handgun are made to penetrate according to the cartidge and game being hunted. None of 'em are AP though.
"...FN Herstal has informed us..." That FN's company policy. It has nothing to do with Canadian law. FN doesn't want to bother with the civilian market. Large government orders only.
"...you do not need Ap in a rifle because it has the penetration..." AP, in a rifle, is for penetrating light armour plate and modern military body armour.
Not all rifle bullets are made to penetrate either. Varmint bullets, for example, are made to expand rapidly upon impact with little penetration. It's why they're no good for deer hunting in cartridges like the .243, et al. Bullets designed for larger game are made to expand after penetrating.
Some handgun bullets are made to penetrate too. Bullets used, Stateside, for hunting with a handgun are made to penetrate according to the cartidge and game being hunted. None of 'em are AP though.
"...FN Herstal has informed us..." That FN's company policy. It has nothing to do with Canadian law. FN doesn't want to bother with the civilian market. Large government orders only.
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