FN-98 3 pos safety question

I think that I discovered my source of confusion - your Dakota safety is blued. My Gentry is blued, but my Dakota is "in the white". So I have been mis-identifying which one is which! The Zastava in pictures above has the blued Gentry on it. It is my 9.3x62 Husqvarna that has the Dakota installed!!! So, the lever angle most definitely not the same!!!

Push feed Model 70 Winchester on left; "in-the-white" Dakota in centre; blued Gentry on the right

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My 1952 Husqvarna FN action 98 has the original flip up safety and the most irritating thing about that is that when hiking in the bush, the slightest brush against bush or even me changing the sling from one shoulder to the other will make it go "click" into the fire position.

I had a Timney trigger installed, but couldn't afford the safety conversion.
 
Yeah, is a thing about the safety on the rifle - it likely works well, if it is not broken and if it is "ON". If innards shear off, or it gets bumped to "Fire" position, the real safety function is still left between ears of the user.

As kids, when starting - hands not big enough to use the left side safety on Lee Enfield No. 4. So we did not use it. A ####-on-close bolt rifle can not fire with the bolt open - so that was how we carried it - bolt handle up. Did not wiggle or slide around from pressure of cartridges below in the magazine. Flipping safety from "ON" to "FIRE" was not an option for us - so learned to just close bolt handle to fire. It was a "#### on close" action. I still find myself doing that, 50 years later. Was same with the Cooey Model 60 - easier for us to carry with bolt open, than to try to manipulate the safety.
 
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I love the M77 Mark II style of 3-Position safety. It tucks in fully forward or rearward in such away that it is highly unlikely that it can get caught on something and be inadvertently moved. The half position, locks the trigger sear but allows the bolt to be worked, ie. Allowing safe unloading.

I can certainly understand your concern with the positions of the safety on your rifle being potentially unsafe.
 
I have a Brno 21h that has a Recknagel 3 position model 70 style safety installed. It has all the advantages of the safeties above, but includes a little locking tab that is easily depressed with the thumb when flicking the safety forwards, but prevents the safety from being jarred off safe. I like it a lot. It is elegant, precise, and also expensive.
 

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Longwalker said:
I have a Brno 21h that has a Recknagel 3 position model 70 style safety installed. It has all the advantages of the safeties above, but includes a little locking tab that is easily depressed with the thumb when flicking the safety forwards, but prevents the safety from being jarred off safe. I like it a lot. It is elegant, precise, and also expensive.
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Thanks .... Have you got a pic of yours installed with the safety on?

Please. :)
 
hoytcanon said:
I love the M77 Mark II style of 3-Position safety. It tucks in fully forward or rearward in such away that it is highly unlikely that it can get caught on something and be inadvertently moved. The half position, locks the trigger sear but allows the bolt to be worked, ie. Allowing safe unloading.

I can certainly understand your concern with the positions of the safety on your rifle being potentially unsafe.
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I do not know about the Ruger system, but on Mauser and Win 70, that 3 position safety has nothing to do with blocking the trigger sear. Those Dakota, Gentry, Win 70 safeties that I am familiar with, when on "Safe" - middle or rear position - has lifted the cocking piece off the trigger sear by a few thou - the safety is holding the cocking piece back, not the sear. Additionally, on these that I have, the middle position allows the cocking piece, shroud, firing pin and main spring assembly to be unscrewed with fingers (after releasing the locking tab) and therefore super easy to inspect or clean that assembly and interior of the bolt body - some I have found to have extraordinary amounts of grease inside - is bad news in real cold - grease gells or stiffens and get misfires because firing pin has to drag through it. A bit surprised at numbers of shooters that I meet up with who have never had their bolt apart - do not know how to do it.
 
Update .... I've since "bumped" this safety onto the FIRE position three times while carrying it. Twice while the rifle was slung.

Going to have to look into other options with this. Starting to bug me now.
 
I thought I'd like the model-70 style safety until I actually owned a couple of model 70's.

I use the Beuhler safety on my Mausers, so all my safeties operate in the same way. It sits on the right side, and doesn't require any modification of the shroud. My biggest complaint is that it makes field stripping the bolt more of a pita.
 
9.3mauser said:
I thought I'd like the model-70 style safety until I actually owned a couple of model 70's.
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As Mr. HoytCanon mentioned earlier in this thread, the Ruger safety is very well designed and works accordingly.

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I thought I'd like the model-70 style safety until I actually owned a couple of model 70's.
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The Winchester style safety is easily mis-used. 3 positions for it... fully engaged and locked is the safe position, half on is the unload the chamber position (best not to carry a chambered round in this position) and the fire position.

Thousands of times a half position Winchester safety has been accidentally disengaged. It shouldn't be used as a carrying position.
 
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