FN C1 7.62 rifles

Harry Potter said:
I have never heard of anyone being able to request and keep his service FNC1. You may be a little confused in your facts.
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Harry at first thought you seem correct. I've never heard of it officially either. However, a good friend and neighbour who passed in the mid 90's, told me he had consecutive serial numbered No4Mk1* 1950's. He said he came into them after the close of the Long Branch arsenal. I never saw them, but he was a WW2 veteran with North Nova's, who lost a lung during Operation Varsity jump across the Rhine Mar'45, and stayed in the service post WW2 re-mustering after a time to the Engineers, from which he retired in the 1970's. Long story short, after seeing a consecutive pair of LB's 1950 for sale on the EE, I'm thinking well I guess the old guy was telling the truth, and maybe these two originally were even his who knows or obtained in a different yet not illegal manner. All I'm saying is stranger things have happened. Some people do get dates,types etc, etc, mixed up as well, usually depends on your level of understanding when the information was relayed to you. The comment you replyed to Harry,... said C2 as well,..... which being the section LMG and full auto,..... would add a little more rarity to the being able to own it, especially if it was after 1978-79 and full auto being grandfathered to prohib status.
 
there are many stolen weapons that once belonged to the cf in civilan hands. cf weapons were never for sale to the public. ok lee enfield were through round about ways, but fn's..no c3's...no c1/c2 no but FEW were sold to the opp and where they went from there no one knows. dont get me started on stolen browning pistols. the stockpile of small arms in cfb moncton were transported to a smelter in nova scotia in the late 80's and were watched a wo, eme type who had to account for them going into the smelter buy the ton.
 
Before CAL closed it doors in 1976, and going back to before 1975, you could buy C1's and C2's as a civilian purchase. Bought from the factory.
The C3 was returned in an exchange program between the CF and Parker Hale. We then received the C3A1. The CF still uses the Inglis Hi Power
(I believe they are looking for an alternative..)

As for ex OPP, sold to Britian and then exported back to Canada..

angrysoldier said:
there are many stolen weapons that once belonged to the cf in civilan hands. cf weapons were never for sale to the public. ok lee enfield were through round about ways, but fn's..no c3's...no c1/c2 no but FEW were sold to the opp and where they went from there no one knows. dont get me started on stolen browning pistols. the stockpile of small arms in cfb moncton were transported to a smelter in nova scotia in the late 80's and were watched a wo, eme type who had to account for them going into the smelter buy the ton.
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mitchlt said:
The FNAR is great. I have one and I love it, if you have a good shot you can connect a group at 100 yards. I will be using it this year for dear hunting for sure.
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Is it built like a tank? The reason I ask is because it's a 2k investment, so I'd prefer it not to be an RFB surprise
 
angrysoldier said:
there are many stolen weapons that once belonged to the cf in civilan hands. cf weapons were never for sale to the public. ok lee enfield were through round about ways, but fn's..no c3's...no c1/c2 no but FEW were sold to the opp and where they went from there no one knows. dont get me started on stolen browning pistols. the stockpile of small arms in cfb moncton were transported to a smelter in nova scotia in the late 80's and were watched a wo, eme type who had to account for them going into the smelter buy the ton.
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My Grandfather got a C2 because he applied and requested his service rifle. It took him 6 months of requesting the rifle to get it. It was new when he asked for it they didn't want to give it to him they offered him ones out the back of the truck but he refused as he wanted the one he was issused. It now sits in his regmental museam. Deactivated.....
 
Yep Prohibited and most were war stocked... The dang Liberals (Fuddle duddle himself) said he didn't want Canadians to own anything the Canadian armed forces used,
 
I remember when they were sold out of an International Arms store in Montreal. We used to get the cataloge. I wanted to buy one, I was then in high school. They were around $200 and change. Restricted back then, but still obtainable. My dad said "You can't hunt with it so why have one?"

I never got one, and am kicking myself now for missing getting one. I could have, but I did not. Thought I would wait until I was out of the house and get one then but it was too late.

When people start taking of banning this and that I share this story and people can tell I am quite serious about what I am talking about and see that indeed, I am very pissed off at anythig Liberal.

So I do have a Nork M-14. Not quite the same. Could they not manufacture a copy of the FAL without the happy switch parts, or address the issues that made it prohib? Not that it makes much sense anyway. (the prohib part, I think a Nork FAL would be a fantastic idea and sell as good as, or better then, the M-14 they make) Nork ones have never been used by the CF so why not? Oh, wait, that makes too much sense.....
 
Tango4N said:
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So I do have a Nork M-14. Not quite the same. Could they not manufacture a copy of the FAL without the happy switch parts, or address the issues that made it prohib? Not that it makes much sense anyway. (the prohib part, I think a Nork FAL would be a fantastic idea and sell as good as, or better then, the M-14 they make) Nork ones have never been used by the CF so why not? Oh, wait, that makes too much sense.....
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dude the what makes it an FN is what makes it illegal !

if you redesigned it to make it legal then it would not be an FN!

BTW the FN AR is NOT a C1A1 or even a L1A1, not even close
 
angrysoldier said:
there are many stolen weapons that once belonged to the cf in civilan hands. cf weapons were never for sale to the public. ok lee enfield were through round about ways, but fn's..no c3's...no c1/c2 no but FEW were sold to the opp and where they went from there no one knows. dont get me started on stolen browning pistols. the stockpile of small arms in cfb moncton were transported to a smelter in nova scotia in the late 80's and were watched a wo, eme type who had to account for them going into the smelter buy the ton.
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Thank you for the current policy.

30-50 years ago things were somewhat different.

I know of several C3's which were "written off" to dignataries and retiring personnel.

A CF C2 is known to have been presented to the son of a Senator who requested one.

The big push for change was the FLQ crisis and subsequent Quebec independance "movements" ~ regimental museums & collections were stripped of "excess" arms, and policies were tightened up.

Having said all that no one really cared until '78/'79 FAC introduction and MG grandfathering...and pretty much all (to then) current CF equipment was available to DCRA and PRA members...
 
As I understand it (and correct me if I am wrong) but the M14 is prohib by name, but the Nork M-305 M-14 clone is not. So why could not Norinco manufacture an FN in a similar manner?

Again, correct me if I am wrong on the real M-14 being prohib. I think it had something to do with them having a happy switch, which had been removed on most anyway, and the Nork not having the means to install said happy switch so it was non-restricted. On the real M-14, though they had been removed, they of course could be re-installed if you knew what you were doing. So they were prohib.

Also, from what I understand, a C1 could be made full auto easily, (I have no idea how) so part of the reason for it going prohib. (The main reason of course was Libs wetting themselves with the thought of civi's owning them.) If Norinco manufactured them, they could add or delete the parts for doing so and it could be a non-restricted as the Nork M-14 is.

Of course this is just all wishful thinking from myself who missed the boat on getting into the FAL world, even if all they would do now is take up space in the safe.

If this could be done, I am sure many of you would buy them.
 
Tango4N said:
As I understand it (and correct me if I am wrong) but the M14 is prohib by name, but the Nork M-305 M-14 clone is not. So why could not Norinco manufacture an FN in a similar manner?

Again, correct me if I am wrong on the real M-14 being prohib. I think it had something to do with them having a happy switch, which had been removed on most anyway, and the Nork not having the means to install said happy switch so it was non-restricted. On the real M-14, though they had been removed, they of course could be re-installed if you knew what you were doing. So they were prohib.

Also, from what I understand, a C1 could be made full auto easily, (I have no idea how) so part of the reason for it going prohib. (The main reason of course was Libs wetting themselves with the thought of civi's owning them.) If Norinco manufactured them, they could add or delete the parts for doing so and it could be a non-restricted as the Nork M-14 is.

Of course this is just all wishful thinking from myself who missed the boat on getting into the FAL world, even if all they would do now is take up space in the safe.

If this could be done, I am sure many of you would buy them.
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The USGI manufactured M-14 rifles are actually prohibited due to being converted autos (under section12(3) of the firearms act), and not prohibited by name via Order in Council (see section 12(5) of the firearms act). If the design were prohibited by name, the Norincos, Poly Techs, Springfields, etc. would be prohibited as well, as they would be considered semi-auto only variants of the real M-14. Unfortunately, the FN FAL is named as prohibited by Order in Council, so even semi-auto only variants are a no go, as they would fall under 12(5).
 
We imported a bunch of British military surplus Sterling 9mm's from the UK around 1977 and there was a few Canadian Sterlings in with the British one's. The British one's were in exc condition and the Canadian one's were in VG condition. So there are some Canadian one's in the system.
 
Also, from what I understand, a C1 could be made full auto easily, (I have no idea how)

Really, really, really easily.
 
Was/Is a great weapon but after you carry it in the field for a few weeks it gets damn heavy lol. It would be nice if it wasn't prohibited but I doubt it ever will have its classification changed. The FNC1 is still used in the Navy as a heavy small arm as the C7 does not have anywhere near the same punch, at least it was a few yrs ago when I was last on a boat. Side note, anyone ever take off the BFA on the FN and use a blank to launch a thunderflare?

Cheers
 
can14 said:
We imported a bunch of British military surplus Sterling 9mm's from the UK around 1977 and there was a few Canadian Sterlings in with the British one's. The British one's were in exc condition and the Canadian one's were in VG condition. So there are some Canadian one's in the system.
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Im very happy to say I had one of the "exc condition" Sterlings , so handy and it wold fold up and fit in me tool box along with a few tinnies
and my stash of Mars bars.
Thats my senior moment for today.......sigh
 
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