FN C1A1 Characteristics

left hand, Gas operated, shoulder controlled, 20 round box magazine fed, folding rear sight of the aperature type (with a 200M Battle site) flash illiminator slotted tube type. with bayonet lug. Adjustable gas regulator and can be used with projector, grenade, C1

....Seargent!
 
Ya mean to tell me that none of you old sweats (as in 'swet') kept a copy of CAMT (Canadian Army Manual of Training) 7-51, Rifle, Bayonet, and Automatic Rifle?

For shame, for shame...

Hokay, this from CFP 317(2) Interim, Weapons, Volume 2, Rifle, Bayonet and Automatic Rifle. (dated 7 Feb 1975).

Chapter 2, Section 2, Characteristics and Mechanism
Art. 203. Characteristics.
1. General Characteristics
a. The rifle is a gas operated, self-loading weapon. It is shoulder controlled and magazine fed. A different version of the rifle called the Rifle, Automatic, 7.62 mm, FN C2 can fire both single rounds and bursts of several rounds.
b. The rifle weighs approximately 5 kg (11 lb) with a full magazine.
c. The magazine holds 20 rounds.
d. The rifle is so designed that all operations such as cocking and loading are done with the left hand while the right hand grasps the pistol grip.
e. The rifle has a carrying handle fitted at the point of balance.
f. The rifle can be fitted with a bayonet or a grenade launcher.
g. The rifle has a flash eliminator of the slotted tube type fitted to it's muzzle.
h. The rifle is fitted with a folding disc sight of the aperture type graduated from 200 to 600 yards (183 to 550 metres). The 200 yard (180 metre) aperture is normally used as a battle sight.
j. The rifle has a trap in the butt designed to hold a coiled pull through and oil bottle.

2. Data summary.
a. Physical data
Calibre 7.62 mm
Length (Normal butt) 113.7 cm (44.75 in)
Length of barrel 53.4 cm (21 in)
Rifling Number of grooves 6
Pitch 1 turn in 30.5 cm (12 in)
Twist right hand
Type of Sight Blade foresight, aperture backsight
200 - 600 yards (180 to 550 metres)
Sight radius 53.4 cm (21 in)
Locking shoulder 15 sizes, 0.001 variation
Weight of rifle 4.22 kg (9 lb 6 oz)
Weight with full magazine and bayonet 5.24 kg (11 lb 10 oz)
Weight of bayonet 0.32 kg (11.5 oz)
Length of bayonet blade 20.3 cm (8 in)
Magazine Box Type 20 rds, double feed
Muzzle Velocity 838 m/sec +/- 12 m/sec
(2750 fps +/- 40 fps)
Butt lengths
Short 'S' 24.76 cm (9.75 in)
Normal 'N' 26.03 cm (10.25 in)
Long 'L' 27.94 cm (11 in)
Long Butt 'L' 29.22 cm (11.5 in)

b. Operating data...

- Well, I ain't going to type out all of 317(2). Notice the errors? The one that stands out the most is deals with the XL Butt being called 'Long Butt 'L', after the Long 'L' was already listed.
 
So tell me again why it's sooooooooooooo evil you can't take it to the range? Semi in 308?
Never mind.
Jungle lanes in Ft Bragg, Yanks drooled over it even though it was semi. More importance was placed on the breech block than the rifle itself. Sandpaper and oven cleaner, even sand helped clean it. God forbid if you got caught using them though. Man did I ever hate that gas plug.
 
sarge said:
... Man did I ever hate that gas plug.
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Our gas plug (easier to clean than a Brit or Aussie one!) cleaned easily by pulling out your boot lace bow from inside the cuff of your Mark II Combat Boot and running the Gas Plug groove back and forth along part of your bootlace as soon as possible after firing. The REAL hardest part to clean was the inside of the gas block. You needed the Section cleaning kit combo tool for that. Gas Piston Rod? Scrape it in hard earth in the ground.

Alternate: Using a tube from a Flare Parachute Hand Fired C3, drop in a piston rod and a gas plug. Fill with Coca-Cola. Screw on the top cap to the tube (the bottom cap should have been on it already, or you will need more Coke, ... and a mop). Leave overnight. If you use vinegar instead of Coca-Cola, do NOT leave overnight.
 
TCBF said:
Ya mean to tell me that none of you old sweats (as in 'swet') kept a copy of CAMT (Canadian Army Manual of Training) 7-51, Rifle, Bayonet, and Automatic Rifle?
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Mine was stamped "Restricted" so I gave it back :D

Smellie's right too, I was fine to lug it around in the bush at 19, but now I can't even buy one to take to the range. Duplicitous b*st*rds.
 
Thanks TCBF -

Thats what I was looking for. I'll see if I can still use that to impress girls.


Chapter 2, Section 2, Characteristics and Mechanism
Art. 203. Characteristics.
1. General Characteristics
a. The rifle is a gas operated, self-loading weapon. It is shoulder controlled and magazine fed. A different version of the rifle called the Rifle, Automatic, 7.62 mm, FN C2 can fire both single rounds and bursts of several rounds.
b. The rifle weighs approximately 5 kg (11 lb) with a full magazine.
c. The magazine holds 20 rounds.
d. The rifle is so designed that all operations such as cocking and loading are done with the left hand while the right hand grasps the pistol grip.
e. The rifle has a carrying handle fitted at the point of balance.
f. The rifle can be fitted with a bayonet or a grenade launcher.
g. The rifle has a flash eliminator of the slotted tube type fitted to it's muzzle.
h. The rifle is fitted with a folding disc sight of the aperture type graduated from 200 to 600 yards (183 to 550 metres). The 200 yard (180 metre) aperture is normally used as a battle sight.
j. The rifle has a trap in the butt designed to hold a coiled pull through and oil bottle.
 
We used to use those grey ink erasers for the gas plugs.

I remember the serial number of my rifle in 1979.... 8L1404. XL butt, a thing of beauty. One of my shooting acquaintances with prohib status has a match FAL and while there were a few differences, I had it apart in seconds. ALmost brought tears to my eyes getting to handle one again after more than 20 years.

You know that Allan Rock never moved to the right in threes (He went very left...) . Of course, all of us on this forum are potential baby-killing granny rapists and cannot possibly be trusted to have a C1 in our safe.....
 
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