fn fal dilemma

I would LOVE to have your problem.. after carrying one for 3 years in the reserves I'm apparently not qualified to own one now..
 
I'm almost in tears reading this thread, would love to own and shoot one of these pieces of history.

P.S. Fu@k you C-68

C-68 did not prohib FAL's, M-14's, H&K 91, G3,..., BM-59'S Steyr AUG's Daewoo's ..... it was Kim Cambell as Justice Minister for Brian Mulroney, with the participations of shooters like Alan Lever, Linda Thom.....
 
C-68 did not prohib FAL's, M-14's, H&K 91, G3,..., BM-59'S Steyr AUG's Daewoo's ..... it was Kim Cambell as Justice Minister for Brian Mulroney, with the participations of shooters like Alan Lever, Linda Thom.....


Does it matter who it was... At this point it doesn't matter... At least back then you could get them to the range.. Now you can't..
 
C-68 did not prohib FAL's, M-14's, H&K 91, G3,..., BM-59'S Steyr AUG's Daewoo's ..... it was Kim Cambell as Justice Minister for Brian Mulroney, with the participations of shooters like Alan Lever, Linda Thom.....

From the info I can find, this is only partly correct.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/FullText.html
12. (1) An individual who is otherwise eligible to hold a licence is not eligible to hold a licence authorizing the individual to possess prohibited firearms except as provided in this section.

Grandfathered individuals — Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 13






(5) An individual is eligible to hold a licence authorizing the individual to possess firearms that were declared to be prohibited weapons under the former Act by the Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 13, made by Order in Council P.C. 1994-1974 of November 29, 1994 and registered as SOR/94-741 and that, on January 1, 1995, either were registered as restricted weapons under the former Act or were the subject of an application for a registration certificate under the former Act if the individual
  • (a) before January 1, 1995 possessed one or more firearms that were so declared;
  • (b) on the commencement day held a registration certificate under the former Act for one or more firearms that were so declared; and
  • (c) beginning on the commencement day was continuously the holder of a registration certificate for one or more firearms that were so declared.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm
Former Prohibited Weapons Order No. 13 (in effect since January 1, 1995)
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the AK-47 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it except for the Valmet Hunter, the Valmet Hunter Auto and the Valmet M78 rifles, but including the:
    • (a) AK-74;
    • (b) AK Hunter;
    • (c) AKM;
    • (d) AKM-63;
    • (e) AKS-56S;
    • (f) AKS-56S-1;
    • (g) AKS-56S-2;
    • (h) AKS-74;
    • (i) AKS-84S-1;
    • (j) AMD-65;
    • (k) AR Model .223;
    • (l) Dragunov;
    • (m) Galil;
    • (n) KKMPi69;
    • (o) M60;
    • (p) M62;
    • (q) M70B1;
    • (r) M70AB2;
    • (s) M76;
    • (t) M77B1;
    • (u) M78;
    • (v) M80;
    • (w) M80A;
    • (x) MAK90;
    • (y) MPiK;
    • (z) MPiKM;
    • (z.1) MPiKMS-72;
    • (z.2) MPiKS;
    • (z.3) PKM;
    • (z.4) PKM-DGN-60;
    • (z.5) PMKM;
    • (z.6) RPK;
    • (z.7) RPK-74;
    • (z.8) RPK-87S;
    • (z.9) Type 56;
    • (z.10) Type 56-1;
    • (z.11) Type 56-2;
    • (z.12) Type 56-3;
    • (z.13) Type 56-4;
    • (z.14) Type 68;
    • (z.15) Type 79;
    • (z.16) American Arms AKY39;
    • (z.17) American Arms AKF39;
    • (z.18) American Arms AKC47;
    • (z.19) American Arms AKF47;
    • (z.20) MAM70WS762;
    • (z.21) MAM70FS762;
    • (z.22) Mitchell AK-22;
    • (z.23) Mitchell AK-47;
    • (z.24) Mitchell Heavy Barrel AK-47;
    • (z.25) Norinco 84S;
    • (z.26) Norinco 84S AK;
    • (z.27) Norinco 56;
    • (z.28) Norinco 56-1;
    • (z.29) Norinco 56-2;
    • (z.30) Norinco 56-3;
    • (z.31) Norinco 56-4;
    • (z.32) Poly Technologies Inc. AK-47/S;
    • (z.33) Poly Technologies Inc. AKS-47/S;
    • (z.34) Poly Technologies Inc. AKS-762;
    • (z.35) Valmet M76;
    • (z.36) Valmet M76 carbine;
    • (z.37) Valmet M78/A2;
    • (z.38) Valmet M78 (NATO) LMG;
    • (z.39) Valmet M82; and
    • (z.40) Valmet M82 Bullpup.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Armalite AR-180 Sporter carbine, and any variant or modified version of it.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Beretta AR70 assault rifle, and any variant or modified version of it.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the BM 59 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including:
    • the Beretta
      • BM 59,
      • BM 59R,
      • BM 59GL,
      • BM 59D,
      • BM 59 Mk E,
      • BM 59 Mk I,
      • BM 59 Mk Ital,
      • BM 59 Mk II,
      • BM 59 Mk III,
      • BM 59 Mk Ital TA,
      • BM 59 Mk Ital Para,
      • BM 59 Mk Ital TP, and
      • BM 60CB; and
    • the Springfield Armory:
      • BM 59 Alpine,
      • BM 59 Alpine Paratrooper, and
      • BM 59 Nigerian Mk IV.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Bushmaster Auto Rifle, and any variant or modified version of it.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Cetme Sport Auto Rifle, and any variant or modified version of it.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Daewoo K1 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Daewoo K1A1, K2, Max 1, Max 2, AR-100, AR 110C, MAXI-II and KC-20.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Demro TAC-1M carbine, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Demro XF-7 Wasp Carbine.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Eagle Apache Carbine, and any variant or modified version of it.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the FN-FNC rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the FNC Auto Rifle, FNC Auto Paratrooper, FNC-11, FNC-22 and FNC-33.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the FN-FAL (FN-LAR) rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the FN 308 Model 44, FN-FAL (FN-LAR) Competition Auto, FN-FAL (FN-LAR) Heavy Barrel 308 Match, FN-FAL (FN-LAR) Paratrooper 308 Match 50-64 and FN 308 Model 50-63.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the G3 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Heckler and Koch:
    • HK 91;
    • HK 91A2;
    • HK 91A3;
    • HK G3 A3;
    • HK G3 A3 ZF;
    • HK G3 A4;
    • HK G3 SG/1; and
    • HK PSG1.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Galil assault rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the AP-84, Galil ARM, Galil AR, Galil SAR, Galil 332 and Mitchell Galil/22 Auto Rifle.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Goncz High-Tech Carbine, and any variant or modified version of it.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Heckler and Koch HK 33 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the:
    • HK 33A2;
    • HK 33A3;
    • HK 33KA1;
    • HK 93;
    • HK 93A2; and
    • HK 93A3.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the J & R Eng M-68 carbine, and any variant or modified version of it, including the PJK M-68 and the Wilkinson Terry carbine.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Leader Mark Series Auto Rifle, and any variant or modified version of it.
  • The firearms of the designs commonly known as the MP5 submachine gun and MP5 carbine, and any variants or modified versions of them, including the Heckler and Koch:
    • HK MP5;
    • HK MP5A2;
    • HK MP5A3;
    • HK MP5K;
    • HK MP5SD;
    • HK MP5SD1;
    • HK MP5SD2;
    • HK MP5SD3;
    • HK 94;
    • HK 94A2; and,
    • HK 94A3.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the PE57 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it.
  • The firearms of the designs commonly known as the SG-550 rifle and SG-551 carbine, and any variants or modified versions of them.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the SIG AMT rifle, and any variant or modified version of it.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Springfield Armory SAR-48 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the SAR-48 Bush, SAR-48 Heavy Barrel, SAR-48 Para and SAR-48 Model 22.
  • The firearm of the design commonly known as the Thompson submachine gun, and any variant or modified version of it, including the:
    • Thompson Model 1921;
    • Thompson Model 1927;
    • Thompson Model 1928;
    • Thompson Model M1;
    • Auto-Ordnance M27A-1;
    • Auto-Ordnance M27A-1 Deluxe;
    • Auto-Ordnance M1927A-3;
    • Auto-Ordnance M1927A-5;
    • Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1;
    • Commando Arms Mk I;
    • Commando Arms Mk II;
    • Commando Arms Mk III;
    • Commando Arms Mk 9; and,
    • Commando Arms Mk 45.

Since the Lieberals took office in the fall of 1993, it looks to me like the Lieberals are to blame after all for the 12(5) prohibitions.

You are correct about the AUG, and converted autos though. The AUG, Sterling Mk6, Uzi, and Ingrams were prohibited by the PCs under 12(4) in 1992, and the PCs are also responsible for the 12(3) converted auto prohibitions. And let's not forget about the many firearms that were prohibited under Prohibited Weapons Order #11 and not grandfathered (confiscated without compensation).
 
From the info I can find, this is only partly correct.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/FullText.html

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm


Since the Lieberals took office in the fall of 1993, it looks to me like the Lieberals are to blame after all for the 12(5) prohibitions.

You are correct about the AUG, and converted autos though. The AUG, Sterling Mk6, Uzi, and Ingrams were prohibited by the PCs under 12(4) in 1992, and the PCs are also responsible for the 12(3) converted auto prohibitions. And let's not forget about the many firearms that were prohibited under Prohibited Weapons Order #11 and not grandfathered (confiscated without compensation).

That list makes me want to cry. So much fun and I was to stupid to buy any back then. All the fun I could have had.
and to the OP........keep it...you'll regret it if you don't. So many of us would kill to have one.
 
Talk about pain!
I was one of the clowns who sold his FAL rather than register it. In my case it was an Aussie L1A1. At one point I had a dewat ex-OPP 8L C1A1, also long since sold. I wish I had kept it just to play with behind the curtains in the den, out of sight of the chillens.
How's this for the wackiest sight for a C1? :)
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If you intend to sell one to another 12(5) holder, you should get it checked out by a gun plumber first, after which - to avoid liability issues - he should proceed with you to the range to test fire it to confirm function. About a thousand rounds should do it.
 
If you intend to sell one to another 12(5) holder, you should get it checked out by a gun plumber first, after which - to avoid liability issues - he should proceed with you to the range to test fire it to confirm function. About a thousand rounds should do it.

I was just going to say this... isn't it technically ok to get get a gunsmith at your local range to "check" the rifle, then proceed to do "test" firing?
 
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