That's why the gas system is adjustable!just to really piss in everyones cornflakes.. if i get the FAL should i put a suppressor on it ?.. then take it hunting ?
FN FAL or M14
- Thread starter Fenix.NZ
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I hate you for having the chance to own a FAL .
I pick neither and that you should kick yourself in the nuts for me.
.I pick neither and that you should kick yourself in the nuts for me
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Like many others, I envy your option to be able to purchase an FN FAL. I carried one for three years or so, wearing the Queen's battle pyjamas, and that rifle is truly one of the world's greatest engineering marvels.
The one I was issued first was 35+ years old, had virtually no finish on it, and kept on working just fine, thankyou very much. Once, when I got her overhot with blanks, I did have a hard extraction that would NOT eject for me, until my section commander showed me the art of "kick starting", by jumping on the cocking handle with the butt on the ground. Sure a whole lot tougher than the C7, that I managed to break by pulling a charging handle right clear of the receiver once, with my little chicken arms.
The FN FAL is not only a wonderful rifle, but an icon of the era, when the world was simpler, and it was simply a case of us against them, instead of them and them and them and them and them against everybody else. I still kick myself for not buying one back when I could. If I could only own one firearm... it would be an FAL.
The M14 is an okay bastard offshoot of that garand thing, with really good sights. The chinese made versions are somewhat analagous to a chinese made Ford F150 half ton, in my opinion - WHY would you do such a thing? A very good friend of mine (Six Star, here on the forum) had one for a bit... Of course, he carried the L1 SLR back in the day, too, so I wasn't surprised when he got rid of the Norc after a few months, even after sinking scads of money into aftermarket bits.
To each their own, but I voted FAL - No contest!
The one I was issued first was 35+ years old, had virtually no finish on it, and kept on working just fine, thankyou very much. Once, when I got her overhot with blanks, I did have a hard extraction that would NOT eject for me, until my section commander showed me the art of "kick starting", by jumping on the cocking handle with the butt on the ground. Sure a whole lot tougher than the C7, that I managed to break by pulling a charging handle right clear of the receiver once, with my little chicken arms.
The FN FAL is not only a wonderful rifle, but an icon of the era, when the world was simpler, and it was simply a case of us against them, instead of them and them and them and them and them against everybody else. I still kick myself for not buying one back when I could. If I could only own one firearm... it would be an FAL.
The M14 is an okay bastard offshoot of that garand thing, with really good sights. The chinese made versions are somewhat analagous to a chinese made Ford F150 half ton, in my opinion - WHY would you do such a thing? A very good friend of mine (Six Star, here on the forum) had one for a bit... Of course, he carried the L1 SLR back in the day, too, so I wasn't surprised when he got rid of the Norc after a few months, even after sinking scads of money into aftermarket bits.
To each their own, but I voted FAL - No contest!
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trigger'06
CGN Regular
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- Abbotsford B.C.
FN vs M14s
I have fond memories of training with the FN. Even managed to shoot SR with it for a few years before we changed to the poodle shooter. Had one of those then too. Still do. Last year I bought an M14s and shot SR with iron sights. Well it wasn't an FN , but it was better than memories. And easier on my cheek
I have fond memories of training with the FN. Even managed to shoot SR with it for a few years before we changed to the poodle shooter. Had one of those then too. Still do. Last year I bought an M14s and shot SR with iron sights. Well it wasn't an FN , but it was better than memories. And easier on my cheek
I am always shocked at the support the FN gets on these threads. I used to shoot SR with the #4, then with the FN, and then withthe C7. I never liked the FN.
The first model gave me a thick lip and had a heavy trigger. the A1 model did not hurt, but still had a heavy trigger. I have both the C1 and C2 versions, plus a L1A1, and none shoots partiularly well.
I have some m14s. I can't say the TRW shoots any better than any of my Norcs, but they all have much nicer triggers and sights than the FN and (for me) shoot better groups.
Before you buy i hope you can shoot both on the range.
The first model gave me a thick lip and had a heavy trigger. the A1 model did not hurt, but still had a heavy trigger. I have both the C1 and C2 versions, plus a L1A1, and none shoots partiularly well.
I have some m14s. I can't say the TRW shoots any better than any of my Norcs, but they all have much nicer triggers and sights than the FN and (for me) shoot better groups.
Before you buy i hope you can shoot both on the range.
FN or M14
I like the FN for looks and I have had every kind of M14 CA's, M1A's, and M305's. I liked my Winchester M14 best, but sold it, and am looking for another CA M14. I have had just about every FN going and am trying to sell enough guns to pay off my debts, and to complete the FAL side of my collection. I haven't fired the metric FNs thanks to the Liberals, but I like the feel of the Israeli FN's (no supressor, makes them compact). I just picked up a mint FN FAL in a trade last month and would love to take it to the range fire it. I was lucky enough to pick up a bunch of C1 parts with the FN at the same time.
My vote would be the M14 to shoot, because of the wood or fiberglass stock and the butt hook. I would have to vote the FN for looks.
I like the FN for looks and I have had every kind of M14 CA's, M1A's, and M305's. I liked my Winchester M14 best, but sold it, and am looking for another CA M14. I have had just about every FN going and am trying to sell enough guns to pay off my debts, and to complete the FAL side of my collection. I haven't fired the metric FNs thanks to the Liberals, but I like the feel of the Israeli FN's (no supressor, makes them compact). I just picked up a mint FN FAL in a trade last month and would love to take it to the range fire it. I was lucky enough to pick up a bunch of C1 parts with the FN at the same time.
My vote would be the M14 to shoot, because of the wood or fiberglass stock and the butt hook. I would have to vote the FN for looks.
Okay, I'm really not trying to start any "You guys are all pansies" argument, but when I was issued the C1A1, I was about 6'1", and 150 lbs soaking wet. The C1 was the first centrefire rifle I had ever shot. I was not bothered by the recoil. Where do all these myths about alleged FN recoil come from? Bad training, I'm thinking?
Recoil was not the issue with the FN, it was that bloody poor stock design that seemed to kick your cheek each time you fired. Didn't say I didn't like the gun, shot fine just hated that sore cheek for two days after a match!
Scott
Scott
The C1 version had a hump under the rear sight that whacked me in the mouth. The C1A1 at least solved that problem by changing the stock shape.
Shooting off sandbags, I get real good groups frm the Brit FN. The Canadian rifles had rather large bores which did not match the Canadian ammo, which was small. As i recall, the barrels were around .310 and the ammo was around .307 (IVI).
There were a few tight barrels and these were prized for service rifle shooting.
Shooting off sandbags, I get real good groups frm the Brit FN. The Canadian rifles had rather large bores which did not match the Canadian ammo, which was small. As i recall, the barrels were around .310 and the ammo was around .307 (IVI).
There were a few tight barrels and these were prized for service rifle shooting.
MapleSugar
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I picked FN.
I like the sights, mag release, and charging handle better on an M-14; but I've shot an L1A1 and liked how mild the recoil was.
I've never shot an M-14, but the .308 Win Garand we shot side by side with the L1A1, kicked noticeably harder.
I like the sights, mag release, and charging handle better on an M-14; but I've shot an L1A1 and liked how mild the recoil was.
I've never shot an M-14, but the .308 Win Garand we shot side by side with the L1A1, kicked noticeably harder.
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johnny Sureshot
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- Nova Scotia
No brainer, FN all the way!!!!!! Better ergonomics, pistol grip, etc.... . Great rifle that we don't have a right to own!!!!!!
If you have your 12.3 status to buy a real M14, I personally feel that there are fewer of them available in our country right now than fn-fal. I missed the boat on the 12.3 status (converted auto) but do have my 12.5 (semi assualt). Alot of the metric pattern fals were registered as 12.3 when these dam gun laws came into effect. I have a ishapore fal, and a couple l1a1's on the way they are all commenwealth inch pattern guns. I would be spending my money on a good to excellent condition M14 if I were you.
