FN P90 Replica Utilizing Ruger 10/22

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I did a search, so if its re-post, you'll have to point me to it. (There are a lot of P90 threads) I've always wanted a P90, there a little rare in Canada, not sure what the legalities of this kind of project would be, either way, what do you guys think? its neat if nothing else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ilwvD-mnE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dQCJmOf8vA&feature=related

Edit, one more link: http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ruger-1022-fn-p90-project-video-3/831294139
 
Cant some one make a stock with the trigger group permanently attacked to the stock.

But then agian we never know when some thing will fly or will not. :rolleyes:
 
Neat, but that was far from a thorough testing of the rifle. Also, it sounds like the guy got a bit of a burst fire thing going on there. Sounds kind of like 2 rounds firing with one trigger pull, maybe it's just an echo though..
 
yep all the guy has to do is put it into production, and sell the gun complet then it becomes a factory gun.
someone should email this dude and tell him we could sell 1000 of them in the great white north.
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Paul Morrison said:
I'm pretty sure aftermarket stocks are legal.
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Aftermarket stocks are fine but an aftermarker bullpup stock is a prohibited device and is therefore illegal. Unless the firearm and stock were newly manufactured and bullpup stock is part of the reciever meaning the gun won't fire without it, it's illegal. That's why the RCMP re-nigged on the Walther G22. Apparently the gun can be fired with the bullpup stock removed making the stock a prohibited device. This ruling is still being fought but I don't know if any headway has been made.

Ace
 
Think walther G22 . If the gun can operate without the stock on then it is a prohib item. If the stock is "part of the action" then it is ok. The key here would be to have the Stock become the trigger housing and when the receiver is dropped in then it works. If a 10-22 trigger mechanism could be part of the forming process then this would work.

Boltgun
 
Boltgun said:
Think walther G22 . If the gun can operate without the stock on then it is a prohib item. If the stock is "part of the action" then it is ok. The key here would be to have the Stock become the trigger housing and when the receiver is dropped in then it works. If a 10-22 trigger mechanism could be part of the forming process then this would work.

Boltgun
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That would be my interpretation as well.
I believe that the good Dr. Lector has mentionned that he has some experience with this situation.
 
Lector gun is a factory one and has a normal triger group. I can't figure out how it is legal, but I know him and he wouldn't lie. I have tried a lot to make him say how his 10-22 bullpup is legal but I could not make him say that secret. A couple of other people who know his stock say the same thing, that the stock is legal.
 
space_ace said:
Aftermarket stocks are fine but an aftermarker bullpup stock is a prohibited device and is therefore illegal. Unless the firearm and stock were newly manufactured and bullpup stock is part of the reciever meaning the gun won't fire without it, it's illegal. That's why the RCMP re-nigged on the Walther G22. Apparently the gun can be fired with the bullpup stock removed making the stock a prohibited device. This ruling is still being fought but I don't know if any headway has been made.

Ace
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This is true I'm still waiting to see if I can keep the stock!
 
The law on bullpup Rifles, vs aftermarket bullpup conversion stocks is an ongoing issue here.
As noted above, if the receiver is built into the stock and cannot be separated, then all is fine.

If an aftermarket stock can be added and removed, the stock is a prohibited device.

The part I am not clear on is what happens if I take an existing gun, permanently change it enough that it cannot fire without my bullpup conversion.
I had thought of making a Norinco M305 into a bullpup. By welding and grinding/machining enough changes into the receiver that the original trigger group would not fit into it anymore, I think that the "can fire with stock removed" clause would not apply anymore.
However, someone else warned me that this would not be allowed.
Anyone know for SURE?
 
You'll never know "for sure" until you do it, get arrested, and get a judge to decide if it's legal or not. And I don't like your chances. Kinda like if you took a Cooey, and no matter how nicely and professional looking you did it, chop it down into a handgun and try and call it a "50 m Free Pistol" and try and get away with it.

Not say'n it's impossible... Just that if I had that much machining skill and time, I'd just start from solid steel and make a new firearm, rather than try and alter an existing one.
 
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