FN #### Video: P90/PS90/FS2000/FiveseveN

[jmiddy]

"Meh" lol
Ive shoot both good to go for most people that arn't cowboys!

The thing that most people old school dont get is at least FN as a company are trying new innovative things that most companies just rehash over and over.
If it wasnt for companies like FN we would still be throwing rocks at targets!

 

[kako911]

Actually:

http://www.defencetalk.com/saudi-arabia-continued-assistance-in-the-modernization-of-the-sang-4113/






http://www.armedforces-int.com/article/fn-herstal-awarded-major-contract-f2000-assault-rifles.html


Interestingly enough the Slovenians are ditching M70 AK pattern rifle, probably to meet with NATO requirements. 6500 have been currently ordered and the M70 has been regulated back to rear echelon and reservist troops. The order's expected to expand up to around 14,000 rifle.


If nothing else the F2000 is going to get it's trial by fire now. 60,000 rifles, it's nothing to sniff at and hopefully all the bugs will get ironed out.

Anyone that has known ME military or was involved in tender can vouch that Any western alligned country in the Middle-east, specially KSA, will base their purchases on nothing else than the flavour of the week.

One month: M4 the next FN2000 the next M16a3 the next G3A3 etc etc etc. KSA buys guns and either destroys them from use and lack of maintenance and care or store then in the worse environment ever and render them obsolete from the next purchase.

The FN200 was not chosen for its superior functioning ability... Just because they could buy it, they did. The same story was for Sig 226 pistol, and then the glock 17 etc. etc. etc. KSA has enough pistols to equip ALL its police force with 1 pistol of each of its purchase (5 different guns) and still have enough backups for double the police force. funny how some of those guns have ended in Lebanon and Iraq.

 

[CenturionX]

I have fired approx 5000 rounds from each,it makes no difference if I own one or not,compared to the AR15/M4 carbine neither offers any advantage other than compactness.
In fact the FN2000 was rejected for lack of reliability in the Croatian Army trials, and has not been adopted in any great numbers in any military due to reliability issues that may or not have been corrected at this time,the fact is it did not add any advantage to existing systems. The integrated G/L and sighting system has promise though.
The P90 fills a niche that for the most part doesn't require filling the PDW concept is flawed and has not caught on outside of certain Special OPs units where the P90 is used in the traditional SMG role, not so much that of the PDW.
The poor performance of the 5.7mm AP round has been well documented so no need to rehash that. A 5.56mm Carbine will give better performance without having to create a separate logistical chain for a new caliber.
The complicated feed system and magazine design is prone to fail as well, in one afternoon of shooting 3 magazines were rendered useless, not exactly confidence inspiring.
The civilian versions I have limited experience with only about 400 rounds through each, but no significant improvements were noted.
So there you go...Meh.. nothing to write home about and definitely not worth the cash,I'll stick to my AR15 FOW thanks,and leave the FN 2000 and P90 to the video game fanboys.

Thanks for the detailed reply. Everything looks great and functions perfectly in a video; it's nice to hear from someone who gave the gear a workout and found they needed some polishing.

For the $$$ asked for these firearms they should need nothing, not eat magazines, and provide reliable service.

 

[gcarms]

Tooooo Much money.........

I have an FN shotgun, its awesome and I would by another FN in a second.......... IF I COULD AFFORD IT.

$4000.00 for a rifle because its unique or the new "it gun" is two much cash for this guy.... not when you can have an HK or a nice AR for almost half that.... plus the ammo, OUCH. If you have $4000.00 to blow, buy a Dlask Ar, some good optics or cool accs. and a tin of ammo.

I have said it before and I'll say it again.....

"FN must stand for Financing Needed"

 

[Speckfire]

I think it's strange when people judge rifles value as a fashion accessory. I guess it takes a certain type of guy.

What do you want me to tell you??!!! The appearance of the rifle, to me, looks like a hull of a boat missing its sails. Sorry for having an opinion Bobby.