Food Supply for Hunting in remote areas accessible by Bushplane only.

Once you’re out of alcohol bacon and tang, there’s another factor to consider. Ease and packaging.

Things are going to be more flexible on a personal trip. Saving $6 or 8 a breakfast going with store-bought granola or oats with powdered milk and on personal trips, I can’t argue that’s not a reasonable concern. But when you have two or three groups in spike camps, everything is getting rained on at the staging dock, and you’re flying in tight weather windows there’s a lot to be said for ease and resilient packaging. There’s also the presentation, when you’re handing a client a ready to go pouch rather than grandma’s homemade granola mix in a ziploc and breaking up clumps of powdered milk with a spork.

Nuts were a big part of the supplementing for us, most of the peripherals and flavour came from Costco. Tamari Almonds were popular and brought protein and fibre, then any kind of nuts in dark chocolate and the Kirkland nuts and dark chocolate bars kept guys moving uphill towards goats. Moon cheese (freeze dried cheese available at Safeway) became popular in the later years, not sure if it wasn’t commonly available prior or if we just didn’t know about it. Dried figs are great for fibre and sugar boosts, some brands are way drier and lighter than others. Quite a few guys went in saying they don’t like figs, or don’t know what they are, and came out appreciating them.

Overall, a ten day goat hunt was an attrition exercise for four to five days at a time, with one bigger meal in the middle. You spiked out with 5 days of freeze dried and snacks, resupplied and regrouped mid hunt if necessary. On a personal trip or exploratory hunt, we packed for the whole ten as one shot, and that’s how I do my own trips hunting, photo, or paddling. The diet hasn’t changed, and I can tell who hasn’t tried modern freeze dried meals, there’s a lot more than the old mountain house these days. They’re extremely light, convenient, and cheap compared to what we spend on guns, glass, and ammo just to stave off boredom.
 
A guy could always get a Thermos style food jar, put the food of your choice; Lipton Side, Rice and ghee, etc and fill with boiling water. They weigh about 1lb and you can eliminate a bowl.

I have been experimenting making kids hot meals for lunch with these but haven't quite mastered a 4 hour wait time without overcooking.

I don't consider $16.95 for a 260 calorie Summit Breakfast Scramble from Backpacker's Pantry to be money well spent or even an adequate breakfast.
 
I was wondering if anyone found something better the Mountain House Meals when weight is of primary importance.

Thanks in advance for any experience based recommendations and comments.

Cheers

Instant coffee and cigarettes, lightweight, good shelf life, and pack well.The true breakfast of champions. The greatest athlete of our time knew that “caffeine plus nicotine equals protein”.
 
30 years ago I hiked the Great Divide Trail ... 1000 km through the Rockies ... solo ... and where you are in the back country and mountains for 7 to 10 days in a row ... alone ... and with no opportunity to resupply.

You have to carry everything on your back and in your backpack .... tent, sleeping bag, cooking stove and fuel, water filter, clothing, ... etc. ... and food for 7 to 10 days ... and till you get an opportunity to resupply.

Freeze dried meals at the time were still very expensive .... and as a student I could not afford them.

What I carried was mostly, dried soups and which I would mix with freeze dried rize, noodles, dried vegetables, dried meat and dried fish ... and spices ... and to create a sort of a stew for each evening. The nice part of this was that you could mix and match different variations each evening ...

My backpack weighted 35 kilograms ... and half of that weight was food for 7 - 10 days.

Every gram ... every ounce counted ... and no, I did not carry bacon or anything that would contain any moisture or water.

It was all just "dried stuff".
That’s wild, I’ve done sections F and G, from jasper to to kakwa, then down the lakes lake road to the highway. Always wanted to do the whole thing but times always been an issue, must be a hell of a trip. Do you remember how long the whole thing took?
 
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Once you’re out of alcohol bacon and tang, there’s another factor to consider. Ease and packaging.

Things are going to be more flexible on a personal trip. Saving $6 or 8 a breakfast going with store-bought granola or oats with powdered milk and on personal trips, I can’t argue that’s not a reasonable concern. But when you have two or three groups in spike camps, everything is getting rained on at the staging dock, and you’re flying in tight weather windows there’s a lot to be said for ease and resilient packaging. There’s also the presentation, when you’re handing a client a ready to go pouch rather than grandma’s homemade granola mix in a ziploc and breaking up clumps of powdered milk with a spork.

Nuts were a big part of the supplementing for us, most of the peripherals and flavour came from Costco. Tamari Almonds were popular and brought protein and fibre, then any kind of nuts in dark chocolate and the Kirkland nuts and dark chocolate bars kept guys moving uphill towards goats. Moon cheese (freeze dried cheese available at Safeway) became popular in the later years, not sure if it wasn’t commonly available prior or if we just didn’t know about it. Dried figs are great for fibre and sugar boosts, some brands are way drier and lighter than others. Quite a few guys went in saying they don’t like figs, or don’t know what they are, and came out appreciating them.

Overall, a ten day goat hunt was an attrition exercise for four to five days at a time, with one bigger meal in the middle. You spiked out with 5 days of freeze dried and snacks, resupplied and regrouped mid hunt if necessary. On a personal trip or exploratory hunt, we packed for the whole ten as one shot, and that’s how I do my own trips hunting, photo, or paddling. The diet hasn’t changed, and I can tell who hasn’t tried modern freeze dried meals, there’s a lot more than the old mountain house these days. They’re extremely light, convenient, and cheap compared to what we spend on guns, glass, and ammo just to stave off boredom.

I bet you're clients would have loved an oz of Hudson Bay Rum and Orange Tang at the end of the day. After fat, alcohol is the most calorie dense thing there is.
 
I was wondering if anyone found something better the Mountain House Meals when weight is of primary importance.

Thanks in advance for any experience based recommendations and comments.

Cheers

Full circle, if looking for a single source new flavour palette that isn’t tang, bacon, and alcohol try Peak Refuel freeze dried ordered from Briden Solutions. This is for when weight is of primary importance, ignoring the mr noodles or green bacon paths. If you have an MEC within a couple hours, go put together a medley of brands. Or if you’ve got just one specific trip planned, PM me and I’ll sell you a medley load out at what it costs wholesale.
 
Must be New Math that Peak Refuel Granola 4.1 calories/gram is more calorie dense than Quaker Harvest Crunch 4.5 calories/gram or that Peak Pork and rice at 4.4 calories/gram is somehow better than Nissan Beef Ramen at 4.8 calories/gram.

So yeah, when weight is the primary concern a guy should really read the label instead of relying on guys one the internet.
 
Peak Pork and Rice has 4.4 calories/gram, this is less than Nissan Beef Noodles or the PC Mac and Cheese I have in my pantry. PC Mac and Cheese is about the same as Peak Alfredo at a fraction of the cost.

The guys that say Mr Noodles aren't wrong.

Freeze dried stuff has very little to recommend it over many items on the shelf in the grocert store.

Read labels, buy what you want to eat. Heck a 50 cent chocolate bar from the Dollar Store is more calorie dense than the stuff being passed off as ultralight backpacking food.
 
You know calories per gram means nothing about taste, fibre, shelf life, or ease of packing and use right. If it was all about calories per gram we’d all be running glucose and everclear IV’s. There’s a lot more to it than that.

Maybe stick to tang, oily fish, and alcohol. Not everyone can enjoy a trip on that.
 
You know calories per gram means nothing about taste, fibre, shelf life, or ease of packing and use right. If it was all about calories per gram we’d all be running glucose and everclear IV’s. There’s a lot more to it than that.

Maybe stick to tang, oily fish, and alcohol. Not everyone can enjoy a trip on that.

Bunged up, bloated and half snapped in the mountains on that kind of diet sounds like the origin of uphill both ways
 
"when weight is of primary importance", calories per gram is the measure.

Freeze dried stuff is a fashion statement or as some call it "presentation". It's like the guys that wear Kuiu around town).

Decide what you want to eat and read labels. Bacon, butter, ghee, oil aren't going bad in 10 days.

Spending $100/day (or $300/day with teenaged boys along) on mediocre food or living on 1500 calories/day isn't for me.
 
If it was all about calories per gram we’d all be running glucose and everclear IV’s

I miss undergrad sometimes...


Moon cheese (freeze dried cheese available at Safeway) became popular in the later years,

This has become my fav field snack, but damn is it expensive. They used to sell cheese crisps at Costco that were similar abd considerably cheaper.

I go mental with the vac sealer and bag meals by portion. Yes I know I'm the guy who complained about MRE waste.

I'm looking at my stash of bagged meals and it has a few of my favs in it, I know taste is subjective but it has stuff from west coast kitchen, alpine Aire, backpackers pantry and ready wise. I have struggled to find a mountain house that I like. Ymmv but budget brand ready wise chili Mac is one of my favorites and comes in at 680 calories. Alpine Aire rustic three cheese lasagna might be my no 1, 800 cals, mama Mia.

Supplement with the stuff mentioned in my other posts and usually only go freeze dried for the evening meal.

I don't have a 1lb thermos but I usually carry a little titanium kettle that fits my spork, tiny eating kit and stove inside it. Doubles as a cup, lid closure allows for cooking of minute rice.

I know some people who swear by cooking orzo in miso soup, but I'd honestly prefer "high end" instant noodles from t&t. Many can be cooked in their bag.

If you are a freeze dried hipster a long handled spoon is a great investment

I'm inclined to agree with mig on the pricing though. A week long backpacking or hunting trip gets really expensive at 20 bucks a meal, but a handful of them is nice for long days. I'd choose a more fibre rich diet though
 
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If a guy is worried about getting plugged up, put some all bran buds in the granola, heck even put a spoon of metamucil in it.
 
A drink at the end of the day in the mountains is one of life's pleasures, you guys should try it.
 
If I'm suspicious of the water I have tablets and let it sit for 4 hours. But this isn't generally a concern I have in the mountains.
 
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