Yesterday at the range we somehow got onto the topic of gun hold point in trap. There are a number of factors that are at play gun hold point, of course. But another chap said he generally held his gun higher when he moved back to handicap distances. It surprised me as I have done the opposite for quite some time now. I feel it might be better to do it the way that I do, but have no reason to think he is a worse shot by any means. Then we went on to foot position, another interesting topic. I adjust my feet slightly 'less' as I move across from station 1 to 5 at handicap distances than I do when changing stations at the 16. I guess I feel that movements and adjustments should be less the further back one goes because it takes less movement to make a big change in distance at the bird. (He, of course, leaves his feet the same.) Certainly various teachers say foot position and hold point are important in clays generally and describe positions and hold points. But I haven't actually found a discussion of these topics where adjustments are described as one moves back in trap. Can anyone point me to an article or discussion about this? Of course, opinions and what others do would be very welcome too. Thank you. Fred