Fore-end play in USGI synthetic stock

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I have a 2011 Norinco and just got a USGI synthetic stock from Treeline. I love it. It's slim, and lightweight and it's got the checkering.

However, there is vertical play where the front of the stock meets the metal lip that keeps it in place. Right now I've built up 3-4 layers of electrical tape where the contact is and it's eliminated the movement. I'm not really satisfied with the solution. Is there a better way I could approach this? Is the electrical tape 'good enough'?

Thanks!
 
If you ask 10 M14 experts, you are gonna get 10 different answers.

That tension point has been argued to death with these fixes:

1) teflon tape the contact points
2) Grease those contact points
3) Immobilize the contact points (as you suggest) with epoxy
4) prescribed # of lbs of tension when you glass bed the barreled receiver
5) Free float the entire front band

Conclusions?

NOTHING gave consistent (not one of the fixes above) accuracy, so all bets are off. Voodoo is your most reliable bet.

Honestly, I just leave it alone, buy and reload match boolits and get out and practice. That will help you... then again a cylindrical op rod spring guide sold by Wolverine, SFRC, Marstar, Epps, TSE might shrink your groups right away without anyone's #### falling off. :D

Cheers,
Barney
 
If you ask 10 M14 experts, you are gonna get 10 different answers.

That tension point has been argued to death with these fixes:

1) teflon tape the contact points
2) Grease those contact points
3) Immobilize the contact points (as you suggest) with epoxy
4) prescribed # of lbs of tension when you glass bed the barreled receiver
5) Free float the entire front band

Conclusions?

NOTHING gave consistent (not one of the fixes above) accuracy, so all bets are off. Voodoo is your most reliable bet.

Honestly, I just leave it alone, buy and reload match boolits and get out and practice. That will help you... then again a cylindrical op rod spring guide sold by Wolverine, SFRC, Marstar, Epps, TSE might shrink your groups right away without anyone's #### falling off. :D

Cheers,
Barney

Yup! Just shoot the thing have fun and dont worry. It's not a sniper rifle.:D
 
I went for a combination of 3 and 5 and used fiberglass to build it up until the slop was gone but not enough to apply pressure on the barrel. Did it make a difference? I don't think so, but it did make it feel more solid. Of course my m14 weights about 13 lbs now...
 
I'd have to agree that this ferrule contact thing is a whole lotta voodoo magic LOL

Some fixtures can be made with some 3/16 rod, a spare gas band with the ferrule lip cut off and a easily constructed receiver "clamp".
All the detailed info on how to make these items at home are in the jerry kuhnhaussen shop manual.
The fixtures are specifically designed for correcting ferrule tension by bedding the stock's receiver bearing surfaces to your particular action.
Once complete you have a custom fit and action remains removeable.
You would then ream out the inside of the ferrule area to 100% clearance the gas cylinder.

Then, grease the ferrule/gas band lip and go shoot her ;)

Stiffening to forend with 2 glassed in carbon fiber shafts (arrow shafts) has also been a popular stiffening mod practiced south of the border.
 
I stiffened the contact points and added carbon fiber arrows to make the stock nice and hard. Got better results with the blue pills. DOHHHH!w:h:
 
Yeah. I think I'm fine with my electrical tape. :) It's not really an accuracy issue for me. I just don't like the stock moving so much when I have pressure on the stock.

Thanks a lot guys! I really appreciate it.
 
Yeah. I think I'm fine with my electrical tape. :) It's not really an accuracy issue for me. I just don't like the stock moving so much when I have pressure on the stock.

Thanks a lot guys! I really appreciate it.

Guess you figured it out. Pressure on the Stock, a good thing sometimes;)
Dont worry be happy!
Cheers!

p.s. not sure about the electrical tape thing, OUCH!
:adult:
 
Yeah. I just have about two or three layers of tape on the ferrule where the metal lip contacts it so it has something to come in contact with. Shimming it, that is.
 
The arrow shafts split and then glued in seem like a pretty good way to go but I was able to find a place (thanks to a member on the 14 forum) that sells strips of carbon fiber. Once I get some time I'll shoot some pics so you guys can see what I was up to. Also going to stiffen up the front with a few layers of either fiberglass or kevlar woven mat. A supplier just around the corner from me does boats and has a large selection of cool stuff for fiberglass...gonna talk to them to see what they recommend

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The arrow shafts split and then glued in seem like a pretty good way to go but I was able to find a place (thanks to a member on the 14 forum) that sells strips of carbon fiber. Once I get some time I'll shoot some pics so you guys can see what I was up to. Also going to stiffen up the front with a few layers of either fiberglass or kevlar woven mat. A supplier just around the corner from me does boats and has a large selection of cool stuff for fiberglass...gonna talk to them to see what they recommend

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