form 6 by email ?
- Thread starter maurice
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Walter only if you are going to a shoot or on a hunting trip. One State at least may or may not honour the form. Being right but in jail is not an outcome you want to endure.
RePete I believe who posts here occasionally, has been directed to enter the US via Michigan on at least one occasion by US Customs. It may not have been him but I do recall one of our members telling me about his personal experience on one trip to the US to attend a shoot. My advice to those without a US residence to keep your firearms locked up and in the cars' trunk if travelling by car and be very polite if stopped by local or State police and be sure to let them know you have a firearm locked up in your truck and you are going to a shoot or going hunting.
From my experience laws and LEO opinions can very from State to State and from County to County. One size does not fit all in the US of A.
Take Care
Bob
Also, the big gulp I just bought at the 7/11, I paid tax on.
Therefore I pay his salary.
But seriously, is it a requirement to say I have firearms in the trunk?
I've been stopped twice in the many trips I have made to the US.
trunk contents didn't come up in conversation.
Therefore I pay his salary.
But seriously, is it a requirement to say I have firearms in the trunk?
I've been stopped twice in the many trips I have made to the US.
trunk contents didn't come up in conversation.
Best it be a surprise to them. Police always like to be surprised especially when it comes to foreigners and guns.....not.
You have to ask yourself do I really want to explain to this guy with a gun on his hip all about "my rights" as you lie face down on the pavement. Sorry but being polite and letting them know where you are off to and the fact you have taken the time to let them know you have an unloaded gun under lock and key in your trunk might make the officer feel a bit more comfortable dealing with you....just saying. Putting officers at ease that they are dealing with someone who recognizes the potential for a misunderstanding and is doing something to ensure there isn't one goes along way from my experience with dealing with police in Canada and I am pretty sure it works the same way in the US.
Take Care
Bob
Love all the amusing comments, but I'm asking a legit question.
Is there a requirement to tell them what is in the trunk without being asked?
I'm not sure how your interactions with LEOs have been, but mine have always been calm and courteous, on the part of myself and the LEO.
We exchange hellos, I hand over my license and other documents requested, I may or may not get a ticket in return, and we're on our way.
The exact details of my trip or where I'm going have never come up, and I never felt the need to start story telling.
If asked, I would tell them I'm travelling to/from a competition and its all secure in the trunk, here's the paperwork I used to get across the border.
There is no scenario in my mind where am I "face down on the pavement"
Not sure why you guys are getting all worked up.
Is there a requirement to tell them what is in the trunk without being asked?
I'm not sure how your interactions with LEOs have been, but mine have always been calm and courteous, on the part of myself and the LEO.
We exchange hellos, I hand over my license and other documents requested, I may or may not get a ticket in return, and we're on our way.
The exact details of my trip or where I'm going have never come up, and I never felt the need to start story telling.
If asked, I would tell them I'm travelling to/from a competition and its all secure in the trunk, here's the paperwork I used to get across the border.
There is no scenario in my mind where am I "face down on the pavement"
Not sure why you guys are getting all worked up.
I got mine in 2 days by email. Used to fax them in and get them back in 3 days, but sometimes 1 week. The longest was 3 weeks 5 or 6 years ago.
Travel with guns locked up like you would in Canada and you won't have a problem.
At the US border I get let through often but sometimes I get sent to secondary, so I allow an extra hour on the trip for that reason. My license plate is flagged by the US as travelling with guns. The hardest time I have ever had was crossing without guns.
Bad advice to say anything to the Police unless they ask. If they do ask, give them the answer and the paperwork first. Then follow there instructions. You are only required to tell them that you have a gun is if you are carrying concealed, but that doesn't apply to all states. It is your responsibility to know the law of the state.
Nope but when you are in the US every State is different. IMHO an once of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure. Just saying. FYI, last August US Customs Officer didn't even wait for my Form 6, I answered his question by telling him I was off to a shoot and with that he handed back my passport and away I went. First time since 911 that occurred. Previous two years I was in secondary and they did look at my guns and the form to ensure the guns were listed in my Form 6 correctly. No issues but they did check.
Next time you are down there and get stopped, start the conversation off by telling the cop you know your rights and see how it goes. Let us know.
Take Care
Bob
Not sure where you are coming from with this.
Never did I bring up any sort of "I know my rights" rebuttal to any statement made in this thread.
I know why Onagoth jumped in with his "opinions" but your persistence with "beware the guy with a gun on his hip" and "you'll be face down on the pavement" was amusing to say the least.
The simple question was, are we required to inform an officer that we have firearms with us without being asked.
I was wondering if there was something I was not aware of.
It appears as though you like to play out all kinds of fantastic scenarios in your mind as to what may happen during a traffic stop.
Whatever gets you through the day my friend.
I've crossed many many times and never had an issue.
I've had a couple traffic stops and never had my car torn apart or ever felt the need to "put the cop at ease" whatever that means.
Anyway, its great we can email the forms now.
Take care!
Paul
Yeah... Sure... I bet.
It's CGN... Getting worked up about hypothetical situations and circumstances is par for the course. The one thing you can almost be sure of is that the level of "worked up-ness" is inversely proportional to the actual real world experience with the given circumstance.
As an aside... 'Emailed my F6NIA all at 6pm January 10th... Received it back approved today at 9am. 'Pretty good turn-around given there was a weekend in there.
Paul, I agree with you. If it comes up in conversation I would be the first to explain about the trunk contents but if its a routine stop or check, why even complicate it. I have been stopped before here in Canada on the way to the range and it never came up so it was never discussed. It did come up one time at a random police checkpoint for seatbelts, MVI etc. on the road from the range. Was told to carry on and have a nice day.
And Bob, its almost like you are responding to somebody else's comments because I can't see where you are getting that from Paul's posts.
