Found a nice early production Steyr SSG 69 P1.

GunBoy said:
Nice SaKO TRG, From this Angle look like a 338lapua, another very nice choice and Good taste, SAKO TRG will give you best bang for the buck, and also when it time to get rid of it, you will get most of your money back, 2 year ago, I was looking at getting a Styer SSG69 with Crack stock, but stock like that from styer they don't make them anymore, to make the story short.
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Yes, TRG 42 in .338 Lapua. I also have a TRG 22 in .308. I see you also have a thing for Sako TRG's!

IIRC Steyr still offers replacement stocks for thee SSG 69's for around $450. You could buy a McMillan also but it's not a copy of the factory stock, more of a modified A4.
 
marcoman,

No, my rifle is not a PI, it's a PII with iron sights on the barrel (recent variation on the same theme). In fact, I never tried to get a true "Mean Green Gun", like yours, but I have seen first hand what a Steyr Mannlicher SSG 69 PI can do, at pretty long range - 600 yards exactly.

Regarding the BDC of your Kahles ZF-69 6x42 scope, I don't have a clue but maybe you can find which one you have by taking a look at the BDCs of Kahles ZF-84 and ZF-95 scopes - assuming that the BDCs are the same of course (I wouldn't bet my bottom dollar on it though) :
www.kahles.at (click Download and follow the trail).
Moreover, I strongly suspect that our own ghostie here must know quite a bit about the BDCs of Kahles ZF-69 scopes. He is a very serious student of anything Steyr Mannlicher SSG 69 rifles and their scopes.

As for the rear sight base of your SSG PI, I do remember clearly having seen one on the rifle of a gentleman named John Dean "Jeff" Cooper, back in 1987, at Gunsite - the only one I ever saw, in the flesh.
 
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I have s styer Pro Hunter which I did re barrel to 260rem, it need a new stock, they wanted over $600plus tax , that is quite expensive!, there is another stock I would like to replace is the SAko TRGS (M995) in 270, but there price is Ridiculous.
 
Snowy Owl said:
I strongly suspect that our own ghostie here must know quite a bit about the BDCs of Kahles ZF-69 scopes.
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Well, I don't know tons, but I do know a few things. Some of this may be obvious, or already well known to you, but...

There is a manual for the SSG69 which is several places online. It can be found here.

http://www.steyrarms.com/fileadmin/user/pdf/SSG_69_PI_PII_PIIK_PIV.pdf

I think there are some other manuals as well. In the above one, it goes through the sight-in procedure with the ZFM, which is a very similar scope to your ZF69. One of the weird things about the manual though, is that it talks about "clicks" being .1 mil. The ZFM I have (and I believe the rest of them) do not have "clicks" in the sense of an audible click like most modern scopes. What they have is "hash marks" on a dial. The turrets themselves have a relatively stiff continuous range of motion. The hash marks on the windage dial, I suspect those are 1 Mil. But between them you can sort of "eyeball" what you want. Divide the little space into 10 in your mind and make "smidge adjustments according". This actually works really, really well, once you get used to it. Same with the elevation.

On the elevation dial, there are some hash marks that have a letter associated with them "1", "2", "3", etc., and some in between them that don't. I believe it goes up to about 12. What I would probably do is sight it in a 100m (not yards), just by turning the elevation dial to what it needs to be to hit the target dead centre at 100m. Then loosen the three screws, pull the dial up and gently bring the "1" hash mark down right on top of the arrow - and then tighten up the screws. Confirm that you have got it spot on-at 100m. Then, if you can, put it on "2" and shoot at a known 200m target. If you are on the money at 200m, then it will probably work all the way up the scale out to 1200m.

There are a couple of different dials for these scopes. I know there is one that is about right with 168gr. Federal Gold Medal Match (or similar), and another one that is pretty much on for 150gr. American Eagle (or similar). Hot handloads will probably shoot high. If you are shooting 168gr. to 175gr. bullets, I would probably try and duplicate the performance of a Gold Medal match round as a starting point, and then figure it out from there. If you are hitting low at 200m, you may have to increase the speed (powder) a bit, re-zero on 100m and then adjust from there.

Conversely, you could zero at 200m and adjust your load from there. Keep in mind, with these 6x scopes you pretty much need a spotting scope at 200m to really be able to sight in properly.

This is all for the ZF69, ZFM, ZF85, ZF95-type 6x42 scope with a "German" three post reticule. There are some 10x models that have other stuff on the reticule, but these are less common.
 
marcoman,

See, I told you, I was right in my suspicions: ghostie knows a thing or three about Kahles ZF series scopes ...

I take it from Kahles website that their ZF95 scope could be fitted with seven different ballistic cams but I suppose (repeat, I suppose) that Steyr Mannlicher, knowing that your rifle was going to be shipped to Canada, must have chosen the most useful ballistics cams for the M80 cartridge (149-3 grs bullet) or the M852 cartridge (168 grs bullet). The 7.62 Nato FN SS77 cartridge is the equivalent of the M80 cartridge (from what I have read) and the Kahles ballistic cam #335-831 was indeed made for the FN SS77 cartridge. As for the M852 cartridge, it is very close to the Federal GM308M cartridge - the Federal Gold Medal Match cartridge with the Sierra 168 grs BTHP bullet that ghostie was talking about - and here there could be two choices: ballistic cam #335-1713 or #335-2177 (both made for the Hirtenberger Match cartridge with a 168 grs bullet up to 700 meters and 1000 yards respectively).

All of this to say that, if I were you, I would follow ghostie's advice to the letter because you don't know which ballistic cam is in your scope and you can find it only by shooting your rifle at long range - for me, 700 meters is a truly LONG range.

I know, I know, it's hard work but someone has to do it and you were very, but very unlucky when you bought your "Mean Green Gun" ...
 
Thanks Ghostie & Snowy Owl for the info.

I have a bunch of 168's on hand and will essentially tune this load velocity-wise to work with the cam installed. I have other rifles to play with for the real long stuff so this gun will be tuned to shoot to 6-700 meters.
 
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Developed a 168gr. SMK/Varget load that aligns almost perfectly with the BDC cam installed on the scope. At 660m with the scope dialed to 650 I was approx 10" low. With the difference in drop from 650(dial) to 660(field) being 6 3/4" this puts this load within 4" of the BDC. Not bad.
Rifle will shoot .5" at 100 when I do my part( still adjusting to this style of reticle).

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