FOUND! - Louis Riel's lawyers guns...and other items.

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While chatting with a fellow that I work with a while back I found out that his sister', husband's great grandfather was a judge in the 1900's. Previous to becoming a judge he was one of the lawyers in the Riel trials (they tell the story as "one of Riel's lawyers")

His name was Thomas C. Johnstone. They showed me a photo of him with a number of other dignitaries at the opening of the Qu'appelle, Long Lake railroad in the late 1880's/1890's.

Apparently (as the internet tells me) Johnstone was born in Ontario in 1850 and moved to Regina in 1882 to set up a law practice, was one of Riel's lawyers in 1885, later became the crown prossecutor for the Judicial District of Assiniboia and in 1906 was appointed as Judge of Western Assiniboia. In 1907 he was appointed to the Supreme Court of Saskatchewan and retired in 1914.

So one day a few months ago this friend of mine tells me that his brother in law has a bunch of guns that were his great, grandfathers along with some other interesting items.

After meeting with them and talking for a couple of hours atthe kitchen table the brother in law picks up an old blue RAF bag and sets it in front of me on the table and says "what do you think"...long storey short, I ended up walking out of the house with the old RAF cloth bag carrying about 300 rounds of antique cartridges, a british bulldog, a large framed Iver Joshnson top break, an old large framed pinfire and an odd little .22 plinker... all that belonged to "Judge Johnstone".

I know someone is going to post the "this thread is worthless without pics" smilie but just be patient. I will get the goods set up for some photos this week.

What I did take pictures of with my phone was the really nice beaded indian artifacts that also belonged to the great grandfather. Have a look:

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He's got a signal board with sheath, a pair of slippers/moccasins, horn container and leather bag. My opinion is the bag is a store bought item from long ago but the other beaded items are no doubt the real deal. Moccasons and signal board are different "tribes" but authentic and comparable to the pieces we have in the Royal Sask Museum.

Anyone interested in stuff like this?
 
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That is a find and a-half!! What a nice piece of history. We'll look forward to seeing those guns that used to belong to lawyer Johnstone.
 
take good care of the Indian artifacts as they are valuable. i have seen some pieces worth several thousand dollars. the guns sound interesting and have some real Canadian history as do the Indian items . congratulations ,sometimes a person just gets lucky .
 
Good for you! That is an incredible find. Nice to come into some real Canadian history like that. Another fellow looking forward to some pics!

Matt
 
One of the jury members for Riel's trial is buried near my town. He died some time later in a nasty blizzard.

Also, I read a book years ago that told about life of Gabriel Dumont. The book stated that Riel's people, when they travelled up and down the Qu'Appelle Valley, took a detour from the east end of Crooked Lake, southward up a creek to a lake just south of the town of Broadview. That creek went right through the middle of my Dad's farm. I spend many hours in that creek when I was a kid. So, I guess I could say that I "crossed paths" with the old Metis of that time. I haven't been able to find out why they made that trip up that creek, but it must have been important, as it would be at least 10-12 miles one way.
 
I think the signal board had a mirror in it. No idea how the shape contributed to its use aside from being able to more accurately direct the reflection? . Obviously a treasured item to warrant such a nice case. In open country it would beat a 5w radio.
 
Nobody has mentioned this yet, but without as much written documentation of the items you can get from the remaining family members these items just become nice artefacts. Pictures of family with the items and signed documentations from the family will help to preserve the history of the items. Get as much information as you can and keep it with the items. You have the items, now the research begins.;)
They are very nice but will be scrutinized by collectors who may obtain these later on in the future.:cool:
Nice collection and congratulations on preserving these as a group.:D
 
Nice find.

What kind of gimp sells his family heirlooms though?

His father had the guns and native items on display in a case years ago but when the grandkids came into the picture mama said get rid of them. They were in really nice condition before...now they're kinda rusty. Now the guy is so worried about possessing all of these guns illegally he said he would rather get rid of them than worry about it. As for the native items...he was worried some group would scream about illegal possession of native artifacts so he wants to get rid of them as well. I didn't buy those off of him (native artifacts are not my thing) I'm wondering if I should buy them later to keep the whole collection together. Anyone else interested in them?

I think he is off to arizona or something for the rest of the winter. I am hoping to get all the photos and documents I can from him.

Tomorrow I am going to set up the guns for a photo shoot.
 
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