Found mosin with a stripped stock! How to refinish?

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Hey Guys, I found a Mosin Nagant with a stripped stock at a pawn shop near my place for next to nothing.

I thought to myself, hell, why the heck not? Could be a fun project to refinish it one way or another. Already Bubba'ed so I can't mess it up.

How should I finish it? I will put up pics as soon as I get home of the stock and hand guard.
 
As promised, here are the pics







First off, how can I get the darker spots out in order to make whatever finish more even?
 
Before doing anything, post pictures. You never know what you might have.

Pretty sure this was stripped, as there is no finish on it whatsoever. Guy said it had been sitting in the shelf for a few months, no one wanted it so I offered him $80 bucks for it. 1930 Tula, Hex Receiver. Decent rifling, metal all decent
 
Post pictures when you are done,would like to see the finished results.

I will keep this thread up to date with all the developments, but for now, I am trying to find some direction! What kind of finish? How to finish? Etc.

All tips and suggestions welcome!

My first goal, is to try to remove all the darker/blacker spots if possible to give the best end results possible. Thanks!
 
I will keep this thread up to date with all the developments, but for now, I am trying to find some direction! What kind of finish? How to finish? Etc.

All tips and suggestions welcome!

My first goal, is to try to remove all the darker/blacker spots if possible to give the best end results possible. Thanks!

When it comes to refinishing old wood, you need to work with what you have. Often it won't end up looking like a brand new rifle. Just trying to set expectations. That said....

I'd try a heat gun to heat up those dark areas and see if it's oil. If it is, keep heating up an area and immediately wipe up the oil as it comes to the surface. You'll see that as you remove the heat the oil will soak back in. The more rapidly the oil soaks back in, the less oil there is in there. Do this until you can't stand doing it anymore. :)

You can steam out some dents with a water dampened rag and an iron. I showed the process in a thread I started in this forum a long time ago. You can search for posts I started in Red Rifles about refinishing my sks. After the steaming process, grab some fine sandpaper and smoothen the wood.

The finishing process from here is really up to you and what direction you'd like to go in. Some people bought garnet shellac to mimic what the arsenal did when storing them. Other people use an oil finish. Some leave the wood light and oils like boiled linseed oil are light, so you end up with a "blonde" looking rifle. Others want a darker colour and may tint the oil or stain the wood first, then oil on top. I tend to do this.

fyi, the darker you want the final wood, the more it will hide those dark areas you are trying to eliminate. If you want a "blonde" look and can't get rid of those dark stained areas, you may be disappointed. So this is where an open mind and working with the wood you have really helps out.

Here's one extreme I did: I took a vanilla sks with a beat up stock and went from this:

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To this:

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I wanted an aged look to the stock. A look that shows weather and wear and has lots of character. Just playing with stains and tinted polymerized tung oil.

The sky is the limit and it all depends on what you want to do.
 
Proper finish for this rifle is clear or amber shellac. Throw on a coat of BLO, then a few coats of shellac and lightly sand each coat, polish the last if you want.
 
Proper finish for this rifle is clear or amber shellac. Throw on a coat of BLO, then a few coats of shellac and lightly sand each coat, polish the last if you want.

I've been looking this up too, as I am undecided if I will try to bring it to original specs, arsenal refurbish specs, or something different, as this is already "bubba-ed" I certainly wont ruin the value of this mosin worse than it already is, regardless of which direction I take it.

Looking up original specs, I found this thread on another forum h ttp://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=62855 Which claims the guy contacted Tula about original finished and Tula replied with

There were two types of finish during the rifle M 1891 production:
1. processing by boiled linseed oil with coloration (toning) and outside surface final smoothing.
2. impregnation in bath on basis of pine tar by liquid-bath method, polishing and shellac varnish covering.
 
I've been looking this up too, as I am undecided if I will try to bring it to original specs, arsenal refurbish specs, or something different, as this is already "bubba-ed" I certainly wont ruin the value of this mosin worse than it already is, regardless of which direction I take it.

Looking up original specs, I found this thread on another forum h ttp://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=62855 Which claims the guy contacted Tula about original finished and Tula replied with

I remember that post but the claim was never substantiated, we never saw anything concrete from Tula. I will say that M 1891 rifles were manufactured well before the 91/30 came into existence and I am not an expert on those rifles. However, I have multiple 91/30s and carbines that have never been refurbished and they all have shellac.

http://7.62x54r.net/ claims shellac was used from the very beginning until the very end and they are probably the best online resource.

Pine tar liquid bath will be interesting haha. I believe shellac varnish was shellac/BLO boiled together.
 
Get some iodine and alcohol. Two parts alcohol to one part iodine. Just keep brushing it on until you have
the red color you want. Buy two bottles of iodine from Walmart.
 
The dark spots are the natural colors of the Arctic Birch used in Soviet gunstocks. Look at hardwood Mosins and SKS's and you'll see all kinds of patterns from ugly to beautiful. Some look great others look like a diseased war rat. For a ###y spin on shellac, google French polish. And yes, its safe for work ;)
 
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