Fraud, caution stolen products.

Credit card will reimburse either way been frauded on 1700$ worth of fuel and cigarettes.....mastercard was happy to reimburse me due to the fraudulent transaction I don't see that there is an issue here......other than where and when to purchase the gloves....ski masks....chains and cinder blocks.....it makes me sick that this crap has been going on in the gun community for quite some time now
 
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you can buy whatever you want as in regards stolen credit cards,bank accounts (how much cash do you want in it)
full personal Id's .......its endless,you just have to know where to look on the net and have the cash to buy.

the banks and CC companies are fully aware of this,hence the high interest %.
the banks dont pay for it,we do as cardholders and business owners.

sorry to hear wolverine supplies got nailed
 
Not sure what the current state or terms of service are with this. At one point it time it actually wasn't more secure and using it changed to terms of liability to the end user for fraud. Like some tried to do when chip and pin first came out.
Phat Eagle said:
^^ I've noticed a lot of retailers are starting to use the Verified by Visa/Mastercard Secure options.
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parkervh said:
It really sucks that the CC companies screw the retailers. If everything checks out with address, name and number the CC company should eat it.
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Ultimately they screw everyone honest. The retailer has lost goods and that lost value (and dealing with it all) adds to their cost of doing business which must ultimately be paid for by the honest customers who buy from them. Similarly, consider the assurances from banks and credit card companies that you won't suffer the cost of fraudulent use of your credit and debit cards, especially when they are selling you the convenience of "tap" or other proximity systems without verification by signatures or P.I.N.s - they "absorb" those losses, but they share them incrementally with all users as part of the cost of doing business. So we don't each pay for our own losses even when they may be caused by our own failures to keep our cards secure, but we all pay jointly for everyone else's lax security.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
In Dec and Jan we got scammed three times with expensive scopes shipped to Quebec. :mad:

These are stolen goods as they have not been paid for, we got caught by a customer(s) using stolen CC information. This is a good reminder for everyone to always check their CC statement carefully.

Stolen are the following: Leupold Mark 6 1-6 x 20 (LPD-115045) for $2,855.00 plus shipping and tax. SERIAL # 506996Y
Bushnell Elite Tactical 1-8 x 42 (BUS-ET18524) $2,270.00 plus shipping and tax. No serial #
Swarovski Z6 2.5-15 x 44 (SWA-59419) $3,019.00 plus shipping and tax. SERIAL # RA8311622

Reward offered $1,000.00, for the recovery of the scopes and prosecution of the thief.
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Again ?
 
Wow that is crappy. It takes all kinds i guess....the world used to be such a better place.
My CC was comprimised last year and they charged $8000!
 
Quebec is the worst for fraud, I scrutinize every transaction from Montreal on our eCommerce site. 60% of our orders from there have been fraudulent.



Mr Wolverine said:
In Dec and Jan we got scammed three times with expensive scopes shipped to Quebec. :mad:

These are stolen goods as they have not been paid for, we got caught by a customer(s) using stolen CC information. This is a good reminder for everyone to always check their CC statement carefully.

Stolen are the following: Leupold Mark 6 1-6 x 20 (LPD-115045) for $2,855.00 plus shipping and tax. SERIAL # 506996Y
Bushnell Elite Tactical 1-8 x 42 (BUS-ET18524) $2,270.00 plus shipping and tax. No serial #
Swarovski Z6 2.5-15 x 44 (SWA-59419) $3,019.00 plus shipping and tax. SERIAL # RA8311622

Reward offered $1,000.00, for the recovery of the scopes and prosecution of the thief.
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will keep an eye opened on the french gun forum Extreme Precision and KIJIJI/LESPACS to see if they surface there.

Willing to take a new 858 instead of money reward ;)
 
I've been ripped off as well many times, I got a small business that I had to shut down due to people saying to their cc company's they didn't shop with me, sucks balls
 
Here's what I use to do while I "was" in the sales business involved in handling CC info from new clients made large purchase order.

New clients, I will call their Credit card company to verified the info provided by the clients and see if the clients contact phone number matches the info on the CC company system. The operator in the CC company won't tell you a word of the client's info, they will only reply "Yes" or "No". So yo have to ask them a question.

Once I confirmed the clients contact info (Address, Name and phone number) with the Credit card company, If any of those info does not match the client's info with the CC company, shipping only to the address matches the credit card info and have recipients name must be sign for the items with the courier / Canada post.

If the client signed for the items with prove of their ID to the courier / Canada post, and the goods was sent to the address matched the credit card info, their will be no charge back from the CC company. It's a legit transaction.
 
Credit card Registry ?? Sorry to hear about the fraud MR. Wolverine, it's a common occurrence nowadays. Were the scopes all in one transaction or different ones with different CCs ? This will definitely slow things down and cost man hours if every transaction needs to be verified with the CC companies, I don't see it as a viable solution. On the other hand holding the poor soul that got his ID stolen liable for it , isn't fair either. Maybe CC companies making a phone call to the client for larger transactions (<500) would be doable ?
 
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