Friend saw a belt fed AR

RobertMcC said:
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Some guy was trying to pass it off as an original ww2 Non restricted mg34 and lots of people actually were amazed with his historical weapon lol. Used that pic and wanted about 4 grand for it IIRC.


The only styles I have seen in .223 (US not here) are the shrike one, and a few different companies taking the old stoner patent for the AR-10, with the rocking feeder like valk and Aries.

Unfortunately 5 round belts would make them nothing but a conversation starter up here. "Thank you ya' red Nancies!"

 
fenceline said:
^^^ 8mm mg34 belts wouldn't be limited to 5. Even with an AR lower. 223 belts would be.
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Yeah i know i was refering to the .223 systems. I have 8mm on old links. Funny though was at a gunshow one day and some guy was there selling .223 on 50 round belts. He didnt get hauled away. Guess ignorance is rampent.
 
fenceline said:
A belt fed upper utilizing a pre 1945 belt design and the applicable ammo for it would be unlimited, and not need classification. Would just be an upper.

8mm mg belts. Perhaps 7.62x39 belts.

22lr belts would be unlimited I think.
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Yeah they would be unlimited, even had belts called brick buster 500rds and 1000rd belts. I tell ya loading the 2x 300 rounds belt I had sucked. Sold it because 10/22 was much more reliable.
 
I'm pretty sure cloth belts are allowed unlimited capacity too (I won't bet the house on that though). I remember someone on this site with a home made semi-auto Browning 1919 that took a cloth belt.
 
ARES makes me can find for around $3500 U.S. Run 5 rounds then dummy round then 5 rounds, onward. Also the system still allows magazine to function. As it is an upper not regulated only the lower.
 
jcombe said:
ARES makes me can find for around $3500 U.S. Run 5 rounds then dummy round then 5 rounds, onward. Also the system still allows magazine to function. As it is an upper not regulated only the lower.
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IIRC you can't do that.

It would be along the lines of having a 30 round magazine and loading 5 rounds, then dummy, 5 rounds then dummy.......
 
Still alive said:
What would be the max cap for a belt fed anyways? I was told guys with belt fed MGs can load them full and not just 5 rd links. Is this true? Is there a difference for a belt fed AR and an MG42?
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The upper mentioned in the OP is an ares. There is no limit on rounds provided you are using disintegrating links.
 
Bobbum Man said:
The upper mentioned in the OP is an ares. There is no limit on rounds provided you are using disintegrating links.
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.....only if the links being used were made for a gun designed prior to 1945. Being that there were no guns designed before 1945 that used .223 or the links that fit .223, you would be limited to 5 rounds.
Being disintegrating links makes no difference.

MG34/42 - Unlimited
M2/M3 - Unlimited
1919 .30-06 - Unlimited
1919 .308 - Unlimited* (supposedly, according to a letter sent to a member here from William Etter, although he cautions it)
M249- 5 rounds
M60 - 5 rounds
 
*MALICE* said:
.....only if the links being used were made for a gun designed prior to 1945. Being that there were no guns designed before 1945 that used .223 or the links that fit .223, you would be limited to 5 rounds.
Being disintegrating links makes no difference.

MG34/42 - Unlimited
M2/M3 - Unlimited
1919 .30-06 - Unlimited
1919 .308 - Unlimited* (supposedly, according to a letter sent to a member here from William Etter, although he cautions it)
M249- 5 rounds
M60 - 5 rounds
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OK sorry, good to know. I apologize for spreading misinformation. I was talking to the owner of the gun yesterday and I must have missed some of the details on how he runs it legally. He seemed knowledgeable enough so I'm sure he has some kind of work-around.
 
*MALICE* said:
.....only if the links being used were made for a gun designed prior to 1945. Being that there were no guns designed before 1945 that used .223 or the links that fit .223, you would be limited to 5 rounds.
Being disintegrating links makes no difference.

MG34/42 - Unlimited
M2/M3 - Unlimited
1919 .30-06 - Unlimited
1919 .308 - Unlimited* (supposedly, according to a letter sent to a member here from William Etter, although he cautions it)
M249- 5 rounds
M60 - 5 rounds
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This is what I got when I started a post about belt fed 1919s:

"Belts and links manufactured for a pre-1946 designed gun are legal, no matter when they were made.
.308 isn't a problem, as long as the belts and links are designed for a pre-1946 gun.
Links like the ones used in the C6 are a problem, because the gun is post-1946. " - tiriaq

"Cloth belts are fine, .308 and 30-06, they all are made for the pre 1946 gun
links made for 30-06 are fine, even if you load .308 in them, to any length
links made for .308 are limited to 5 rounds, regardless of what ammo you load in them" - scott585

However: I would love to know how legit is it to shoot this Ar beltfed since the upper is definitely not pre-1946!!! I would totally buy one if someone can clear this!
 
fenceline said:
Sigh...

The belts were designed prior to 46. That makes them legal with no capacity limit.

The year of the gun doesn't matter.
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Sorry, which links does the AR15 beltfed use? I was under the impression they were M27 links which are not pre-46

edit- sorry, you're referring to the mg34 upper. I thought you meant the shrike.
 
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