Frizzen hardening?

kferguson

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My daughter has a summer job as an 1812 re-enactor at a historic site. The Brown Bess she was issued (Pedersoli I think) is a very inconsistant sparker, despite having a good sharp flint. So I suspect the frizzen is too soft. Lord knows how many times it has been shot! Does anyone know if they are surface hardened only ie. all the hardened part has been scraped off? Is there a process to re-harden without making the frizzen brittle?
Thanks!
 
There is really no definite answer without knowing what the frizzen is made from. Casehardened mild steel could be re-casehardened. But if it is high carbon steel, that would be the wrong approach. Pedersoli muskets would have Italian proofs.
 
Suggest you tell her take it to her boss. If you fiddle with it, chances are she'll be fired.
There is a manual at davide-pedersoli.com though. Add the W's.
 
Thanks all! Sunray, I have no intention of touching it. It has been causing her trouble all summer and her bosses can't seem to get it right. I intend to pass along the advice I receive here. Kevin
 
If they're anything like the supervisors at historical sites I've met they're likely a mix of scared of the site guns and worship them as arcane and mystical devices that can not be understood by a mere human being. If it's a big deal might just be worth just buying a spare and getting the supers to reimburse, or just eat the cost if it's really important she get it working.
 
I would agree with H Wally; buy a spare and use that. I think most or all of the foreign locks use case hardened parts. I differ a little from the video is how I recase a frizzen. I use an oxypropane cutting torch for heat and keep molten Kasenite on the frizzen for 3 minutes using a clock. 3 minutes is a surprisingly long time when you are just estimating by guess and by golly. I also draw the striking surface to somewhere between gold and brown; apart from potential brittleness, I also think a frizzen surface can be too hard to spark well. I also draw the pan cover and the lower corner of the striking surface to about dark blue just to be sure they won't break as a result of being high carbon steel or have absorbed too much carbon over repeated recasings. I don't have any good way of keeping the bump below the pivot hard and that part if soft will wear against the frizzen spring

Someone above mentioned grooves in the striking face; after a lot of use even a high carbon frizzen seems to get horizontal ridges or waves and I grind those smooth. A 6" bench grinder seems to be about the right curvature for the striking face. Waves or ripples/grooves slow the flint down as it scrapes along the frizzen and therefore no or few sparks. While Tiriaq cautions against casing a high carbon frizzen, I have found that I have to case a high carbon frizzen although logic says I should not have to. On such a frizzen, be doubly sure to draw the corner soft to prevent breaking it

cheers mooncoon
 
All the trouble it will take to re-harden it....Just buy a new one....Thats the beauty with the pedersoli muskets = spare parts are readily available.
 
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