From CSA: The reason for the broken bolts in the VZ58
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My CSA 5.56 has been great up to yesterday when I discovered the bolt is cracked. The rifle shot more accurately than any AR I have owned other than a Colt HBar and I really want to hang on to it. I am impressed with CSA owning up to their mistakes and willing to make it right. So off my rifle goes for repairs. At this point I am optimistic.
Im not sure I understand the CZ fanboys. Between the gremlin and all the other CZ problems that are regularly brought up here, how exactly do you find the CZ superior to the CSA???
Both have pros and cons in equal amounts IMO
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Moparman1303
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How would one know if the bolt has issues?
Well said....i see issues with every Firearm thats produced on mass in fact thats why a lot of members sign up CGN....so they can find info and solutions related to firearms issues
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"Your rifle has 3.0 mm gas hole, which is by 0.5 mm more than the standard gas hole, but again, it doesn´t necessarily mean your rifle needs checking or repair. If the gas block is slightly bigger, then 3.0 mm might be absolutely appropriate. I would honestly wait until you can shoot it and see how far the cases fly. Nothing there to lose for you. You are still well within the 5 year warranty so even if you go out shooting only next year, you are still fine"
In other words, the standard gas hole size is 2.5mm, however if you have a slightly larger gas block then it's okay to have a larger gas hole
Okay, so anyone can explain to me what a "gas block" is?
Second question: what can one do as a home repair, to reduce the pressure in the gas chamber? Anyone have any suggestions?
"Your rifle has 3.0 mm gas hole, which is by 0.5 mm more than the standard gas hole, but again, it doesn´t necessarily mean your rifle needs checking or repair. If the gas block is slightly bigger, then 3.0 mm might be absolutely appropriate. I would honestly wait until you can shoot it and see how far the cases fly. Nothing there to lose for you. You are still well within the 5 year warranty so even if you go out shooting only next year, you are still fine"
In other words, the standard gas hole size is 2.5mm, however if you have a slightly larger gas block then it's okay to have a larger gas hole
Okay, so anyone can explain to me what a "gas block" is?
Second question: what can one do as a home repair, to reduce the pressure in the gas chamber? Anyone have any suggestions?
I read somewhere that you can also widen the exhaust holes (that are near the bottom handguard) to relieve the pressure. That would work right?
It should.... It's all simple physics. You want enough force coming back to make the gun cycle properly (with different types of ammo), but not have too much force to stress components. Personally, physics calculations don't intimidate me, but I don't know any of the specs of the components involved to know what the various limits are.
Sorry I shoot rifles not play with them in front of the mirror
The problem is with the manufacture of this rifle not taken the spec's lad out in front of them but thinking that they know best and modifying the original design to pretend to be different and better witch they clearly are not nor will never be. As far as that farce of a gremlin is concerned is because of the government's stupid idea that the trigger had to be modified to be accepted in Canada. The same modified trigger that is in your CSA (Can't Shoot Again) but they had to bastardize the bolt carer to make it work also. Complete abortion is finalized when they also changed the receiver specs and used the same mil-surp parts hoping that everything will still work fine. To bad they stink and did not do more research on how this striker fired rifle works before selling it.
Besides the self imposed gremlin name one other malfunction caused by the manufacturing process of this rifle. Then good shill you will see who the real troll for CSA products are and who is the good Canuck trying to warn fellow Canucks to steer clear of this rifle platform until they redesign it to not have some fatal flaws like gas port pressure issues.
Sorry I shoot rifles not play with them in front of the mirror
The problem is with the manufacture of this rifle not taken the spec's lad out in front of them but thinking that they know best and modifying the original design to pretend to be different and better witch they clearly are not nor will never be. As far as that farce of a gremlin is concerned is because of the government's stupid idea that the trigger had to be modified to be accepted in Canada. The same modified trigger that is in your CSA (Can't Shoot Again) but they had to bastardize the bolt carer to make it work also. Complete abortion is finalized when they also changed the receiver specs and used the same mil-surp parts hoping that everything will still work fine. To bad they stink and did not do more research on how this striker fired rifle works before selling it.
Besides the self imposed gremlin name one other malfunction caused by the manufacturing process of this rifle. Then good shill you will see who the real troll for CSA products are and who is the good Canuck trying to warn fellow Canucks to steer clear of this rifle platform until they redesign it to not have some fatal flaws like gas port pressure issues.
How many rifles didn't have bugs in the first generation? M-16? Total abortion. Garand? Years of design changes. M-14? Ross rifle? Thompson? It's the nature of engineering, trial and error, once in the real world. All of the best laid plans change once the real world gets involved. Would it have been nice to receive the military version, vetted for decades? Sure, but this is Canada, not going to happen. Google any gun, and you will find people #####ing about it in great numbers. All have flaws. Sadly, some civy versions of military guns will have their share, thanks to changes to their original designs. As long as they are addressed, and dealt with, OK. Do I think these are the worlds best gun? Nope, but after many rounds through my Cz-858, I've learned to respect it. Do you imagine the thousands of happy owners of this platform are stupid, and that if only they accepted the blessing of your vitriol for it, would they be happier? It reminds me of all the M-305 haters. The guys who tinker with them just laugh, smile, and remind others: "Haters gotta hate."
Good to see CSA manning up and addressing this, even if it's a little late. What's the warranty again? Oh yeah, five years. What's Tikka or Remington? Two years. Most others, one year. Some, like Ruger, have no written warranty. Problems happen, nice to have a company admit it and fix it. I have three, my brother has two, his buddy two, his other buddy two... we must have got all the good ones. Lucky I guess. Well, I have to back to the mirror with mine, have a nice day!
The problem is with the manufacture of this rifle not taken the spec's lad out in front of them but thinking that they know best and modifying the original design to pretend to be different and better witch they clearly are not nor will never be. As far as that farce of a gremlin is concerned is because of the government's stupid idea that the trigger had to be modified to be accepted in Canada. The same modified trigger that is in your CSA (Can't Shoot Again) but they had to bastardize the bolt carer to make it work also. Complete abortion is finalized when they also changed the receiver specs and used the same mil-surp parts hoping that everything will still work fine. To bad they stink and did not do more research on how this striker fired rifle works before selling it.
Besides the self imposed gremlin name one other malfunction caused by the manufacturing process of this rifle. Then good shill you will see who the real troll for CSA products are and who is the good Canuck trying to warn fellow Canucks to steer clear of this rifle platform until they redesign it to not have some fatal flaws like gas port pressure issues.
Hmmm...you do know that the gremlin problem is with your beloved CZ rifles, not the CSAs?
I should also ask, have you ever owned a CSA?
Oh and concerning your introductory statement
Sorry I shoot rifles not play with them in front of the mirror
you should know that by now, you sound like you jerk off to your CZs and have nightmares about the CSAs...which frankly I'm not sure is healthier than playing with guns in front of mirrors, considering the ridiculously intense emotions of love and hate you feel towards those rifles...
seriously? did you read the OP?
Read the sticky on these guns in the "Red Rifles" section. You would know it.
I own both in 7.62, now as far as my rifle's go the CZ is the go to! the CZ has just about double the CSA in rounds and has held up 100% better than the CSA which has after about 1 crate really started to show a short round count life.
I hate to say that after spending almost $1100 on it but it is what it is and it's not a a CZ.
Maybe in the future once CSA has some time with the platform it will be up to CZ standards but at this time they are not.
