Frosty Farky results finally in....
- Thread starter CyaN1de
- Start date
- Location
- Petawawa, Ontario
Ian Hames - 6BR
Richard Dreger - 6BR
Tom Fripp - 6BR
Ron Hiller - 6BR
Steve Baardsen - 6.5x47
Jim Benge - 6-250 Improved (AKA 6 Benge)
Marc Thibeault - 6BR
Mark Winfield - 6 Dasher (I think)
Jerry Teo - 6.5 Mystic
Dave Assmus - 6BR
Don Piper - 6BR
Barry Prost - 6BR
Art Bourne 6BR
Jay Winfield - 6 Dasher (I think)
Bill Flintoft - 6.5x55
Darren Scherger - 30x47
Frank Oblack - 6XC
The cool part is that the top 3 in F-O were all shooting XR-100 Actions with the factory stocks
There were 5 XR-100's in total in action this weekend.
EDIT: Fixed to show proper calibers
Richard Dreger - 6BR
Tom Fripp - 6BR
Ron Hiller - 6BR
Steve Baardsen - 6.5x47
Jim Benge - 6-250 Improved (AKA 6 Benge)
Marc Thibeault - 6BR
Mark Winfield - 6 Dasher (I think)
Jerry Teo - 6.5 Mystic
Dave Assmus - 6BR
Don Piper - 6BR
Barry Prost - 6BR
Art Bourne 6BR
Jay Winfield - 6 Dasher (I think)
Bill Flintoft - 6.5x55
Darren Scherger - 30x47
Frank Oblack - 6XC
The cool part is that the top 3 in F-O were all shooting XR-100 Actions with the factory stocks
There were 5 XR-100's in total in action this weekend.EDIT: Fixed to show proper calibers
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Kodiak99317
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Saskatchewan, Canada
Frank Oblack shots a 6XC
Bill Flintoft shots a 6.5x55
and the Winfields could have been using 6x47's, 308's or 6XC's or as you say 6mm Dasher's
Congrats to the winners, wish I was not oncall AGAIN...
Bill Flintoft shots a 6.5x55
and the Winfields could have been using 6x47's, 308's or 6XC's or as you say 6mm Dasher's
Congrats to the winners, wish I was not oncall AGAIN...
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Most shooters use the 6BR for the 300 meter F(O) class. If I'm serious about winning, I use a 308 which as it happens, is also eligible for F(TR). The 308 is no handicap though it is somewhat more difficult to shoot due to recoil. Much less commotion with the 6BR.
Using the 6BR, I once had to fire an extra shot because the scorer didn't notice the rifle move and wasn't paying attention to the target. The previous shot was an "X", the shot he didn't notice was an "X", and the extra shot I had to fire was, luckily, an "X". The point is, 6BR's are very easy to handle and shoot very well. I can't say why I don't use mine more often.
I toyed with the idea of building a 22BR which I think would work quite well but ended up building a 22-250 instead. I'll use it this coming weekend at Homestead. Seems like it will work reasonably well but I don't expect barrel life to be real good (80 gr bullets at 3375 fps).
Good shooting guys. Sorry I couldn't make it. Regards, Bill
Using the 6BR, I once had to fire an extra shot because the scorer didn't notice the rifle move and wasn't paying attention to the target. The previous shot was an "X", the shot he didn't notice was an "X", and the extra shot I had to fire was, luckily, an "X". The point is, 6BR's are very easy to handle and shoot very well. I can't say why I don't use mine more often.
I toyed with the idea of building a 22BR which I think would work quite well but ended up building a 22-250 instead. I'll use it this coming weekend at Homestead. Seems like it will work reasonably well but I don't expect barrel life to be real good (80 gr bullets at 3375 fps).
Good shooting guys. Sorry I couldn't make it. Regards, Bill
The 6BR is really hard to beat, It burns 30 some grains of Varget, Low recoil. Good supply of brass(Lapua). Great supply of VLD bullets. You don't have to fire form brass. In my opinion if someone comes to me and whats to start shooting F-class. I always point them in the 6BR direction.
- Location
- Petawawa, Ontario
Darren Scherger was shooting my 30x47 using 155 grain Palmas. The rifle with it's short barrel and 1-14 twist was designed for mainly 100 yard bench rest using 125 or 136 grain flat base bullets. I found that it will stabilize the Palmas at 300 metres but it's on the ragged edge.
I agree with marksmen hands down.
FWIW, 11 of the competitors were using 6BR between bench and F-Open. (Not sure what Kathleen was using) There was some 6.5X47 and some 6XC's being used as well.
I rejoiced at finding a consistent .1-.2MOA load in a brand spankin' new barrel, but its best accuracy was at only 2800 fps. Slow for a 6BR.
FWIW, 11 of the competitors were using 6BR between bench and F-Open. (Not sure what Kathleen was using) There was some 6.5X47 and some 6XC's being used as well.
I rejoiced at finding a consistent .1-.2MOA load in a brand spankin' new barrel, but its best accuracy was at only 2800 fps. Slow for a 6BR.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
I was shooting my 6.5 Mystic
Steve Baardsen was shooting a 6.5X47L
Mick McPhee was shooting a 30X47L and his first ever 15X relay.
Most of the field in F(O) was definitely 6BR and it is a very easy to shoot cartridge.
However, if things were a bit more breezy, wouldn't have taken much to change the top of the heap from 6mm to 6.5
Was a great shoot with some really great shooting.
I hope that with F(TR) a permanent div, we will see more novice/young shooters enter. A 223 is very competitive and wouldn't cost much to shoot.
Jerry
Steve Baardsen was shooting a 6.5X47L
Mick McPhee was shooting a 30X47L and his first ever 15X relay.
Most of the field in F(O) was definitely 6BR and it is a very easy to shoot cartridge.
However, if things were a bit more breezy, wouldn't have taken much to change the top of the heap from 6mm to 6.5
Was a great shoot with some really great shooting.
I hope that with F(TR) a permanent div, we will see more novice/young shooters enter. A 223 is very competitive and wouldn't cost much to shoot.
Jerry
I overheard M. Winfield telling M. Thibeault about his 6 Dasher so I assumed thats what he was shooting this weekend. and J. Winfield was shooting his here in the spring match so again I assumed thats what he had this time out.
I just think if new comers (starters) came to the match's with a 6BR versus the 308-223 cal. We would have a better retention and less disappointment in "the first matches". I know we always welcome the new guy with the gun shop rig. remchester savage off the shelf stuff and try to encourage them to continue with the sport. But in my experience they get discouraged by the fact they just spent 1500.00 and to be competitive they have to spend 1000.00+ more money to get close to the top 10 percent of finishers. I wish Savage would offer their F-Class rig in 6BR!! I think it would get guys off to a better start.
Mystic Precision
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- Location
- Summerland, BC
Savage does offer a 6BR version of their F class rifle. WSS lists them for $1200???? A really nice rifle to start with.
I will be able to offer alternatives for the Savage/Stevens shooter soon.
Shooting just about any cartridge will get a whole lot easier.
There are some newbies that will not want to reload (why? Who knows?). Anyways, the 223 gives them a chance to make some noise and put holes in paper with factory ammo. As long as they don't expect to win in their first matches, they can put in some decent scores. Plus the practise costs are way down.
The cost of start up is a bit more in the 6BR. No big deal if they really want to come join us.
Then there is the issue of competing with a F(O) rifle against the rest of our rigs. They will be up against even better shooting gear.$$$$$
So either they get bounced around with a 223 or bottom of the pack standings if they drop a couple of points (which they most certainly will).
Either way, a newbie expecting to win in their first match better have enormous talent or had practise a ton.
A 12FV is under $600 and once bedded CAN hold the 10ring with handloads. That is well above the skill of the average newbie shooter.
Jerry
I will be able to offer alternatives for the Savage/Stevens shooter soon.
Shooting just about any cartridge will get a whole lot easier.
There are some newbies that will not want to reload (why? Who knows?). Anyways, the 223 gives them a chance to make some noise and put holes in paper with factory ammo. As long as they don't expect to win in their first matches, they can put in some decent scores. Plus the practise costs are way down.
The cost of start up is a bit more in the 6BR. No big deal if they really want to come join us.
Then there is the issue of competing with a F(O) rifle against the rest of our rigs. They will be up against even better shooting gear.$$$$$
So either they get bounced around with a 223 or bottom of the pack standings if they drop a couple of points (which they most certainly will).
Either way, a newbie expecting to win in their first match better have enormous talent or had practise a ton.
A 12FV is under $600 and once bedded CAN hold the 10ring with handloads. That is well above the skill of the average newbie shooter.
Jerry
I consider the KTSA 300m match to be the top F Class competition in Western Canada and Mark Anderson and the KTSA should be proud of what they have developed.
The level of competition is amazing! You cannot afford to drop a point and you had better shoot alot of X's.
One of the main reasons I keep going back is the really neat shooters that attend this match. This is a bunch of guys who like shooting, they want to talk shooting and most important they are very willing to tell fellow competetors their secrets and any new things they have tried out.
In the spring I was shooting a 6BR AI (Ackley Improved) but that has not shown the promise I was hoping for. This last shoot I used a 6BR that Bill Leeper put together for me an a Winchester action. Kathleen used a 6BR AI and my brother Mark used his 6 Dasher.
Jay
The level of competition is amazing! You cannot afford to drop a point and you had better shoot alot of X's.
One of the main reasons I keep going back is the really neat shooters that attend this match. This is a bunch of guys who like shooting, they want to talk shooting and most important they are very willing to tell fellow competetors their secrets and any new things they have tried out.
In the spring I was shooting a 6BR AI (Ackley Improved) but that has not shown the promise I was hoping for. This last shoot I used a 6BR that Bill Leeper put together for me an a Winchester action. Kathleen used a 6BR AI and my brother Mark used his 6 Dasher.
Jay
