I have been trying to call in coyotes for the past couple of months with no success and was wondering if I could get some advice. I have tried a variety of mouth calls (K&H cottontail, primos double whammy) as well as an Johnny S. electronic call (the one with the jackrabbit tape). I have just started hunting predators in Jan. 08 and I am thinking that the best time is deer hunting season (oct. nov.). There are lots of tracks where I set up but no animals when I start calling, I get the odd raven and magpie but nothing else. What type of whether is best I went out yesterday when it was quite sunny, no wind and about -10C, does that make a difference, also it was a full moon last night, maybe that has something to do with it. It is Feb. 22 today and from what I hear it is mating season for coyotes, does that make a difference? Any help would be appreciated.
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Yes mating season makes a difference it's time to switch over to howling.
The best calling instruction DVD I have seen is the primos mastering the art of predator calling.
The biggest mistake new guys make is the approach to the calling location you need to sneek in and watch the wind. think about it this way lots of time I have had coyotes respond before I have even finished the first sequence, coyotes my be fast but that animal was close. if you blunder in those close dogs will be spooked off.
This late in the season is tough, in November December the calling is not as tough.
The best calling instruction DVD I have seen is the primos mastering the art of predator calling.
The biggest mistake new guys make is the approach to the calling location you need to sneek in and watch the wind. think about it this way lots of time I have had coyotes respond before I have even finished the first sequence, coyotes my be fast but that animal was close. if you blunder in those close dogs will be spooked off.
This late in the season is tough, in November December the calling is not as tough.
Yes, I agree...don't give up. When I started calling last year, I was getting nowhere fast. What I do when I get set up in my hideout, is to just do some not so loud distress calls to attract any yotes that might be in close proximity. If nothing comes in within 20 minutes, then I'll let out some locator and perhaps some invitation calls. I'm now starting to have "some" success, not as much as what you see in the videos mind you, but we all know that they're going to show you their successes and not roll the tape for the long hours they spend in the stand before a yote comes in. It'll happen, just be patient. 
I agree, Buy Randy Andersons' videos. Just don't rate his success against yours because you'll loose
Pay attention to how he sets up in differnet situations, how he plays the wind and the sounds he uses. Randy's good at explaining things like why he does certain things. Howling is probably the best call to use right now because of the time of the season.
calling all coyotes 1,3 and 4 are probably his best ones. mastering the art is the best for teaching distress sounds though.
Pay attention to how he sets up in differnet situations, how he plays the wind and the sounds he uses. Randy's good at explaining things like why he does certain things. Howling is probably the best call to use right now because of the time of the season. calling all coyotes 1,3 and 4 are probably his best ones. mastering the art is the best for teaching distress sounds though.
calling
well first of all make sure there are coyotes in the area you are calling. like others said he make sure there are signs or dead animals around to keep coyotes in the area. if your in one area and an farmer 2 miles down the road has an dead cow your never gunna get one in because hes having steak down the street. another thing to do is go for an crooze down the road and let out howls and they will reply thats just to locate them and know where to set up in the morning i always do that if i want success. next is calling i like to howl or let in an female inv and then start an cottontail distress then mix in an challenge inbetween there somewhere. but the biggest thing is wind and if they are there. if they are in the area and there hungry they wil at least come see whats the noise. they are curios. another thing they hate reflection and you should sit in an shadow. try to mix in the best you can. camo i think is an must but you don't need an camo painted rifle. try and pick the spots you use well and always look downwind they will never come upind or i have yet to see that happen. another thing keep the caller if possible away from you. the less amount of attention the better. and when you call one in, i always shoot on an half breath makes me less shaky and iam shaky. i use an 26' bipod and an total white cover suit and in the summer i use an ghillie suit green of cource. if u have ranchers in the area and tell them what your doing they will more than not let you hunt on there land. i have yet to see an farmer like coyotes either because of fighting the dog or calves, or making the dog bark all night long. if u want any other info thats not stated here let me knwo and ill do my best to help an fellow hunter. and another thing don't exhaust the same spot because its proball the same coyotes hearing the sounds and they will catch on then its very hard to get an good kill shot on an coyote. thats my thought on everything stated here.
sv7772
well first of all make sure there are coyotes in the area you are calling. like others said he make sure there are signs or dead animals around to keep coyotes in the area. if your in one area and an farmer 2 miles down the road has an dead cow your never gunna get one in because hes having steak down the street. another thing to do is go for an crooze down the road and let out howls and they will reply thats just to locate them and know where to set up in the morning i always do that if i want success. next is calling i like to howl or let in an female inv and then start an cottontail distress then mix in an challenge inbetween there somewhere. but the biggest thing is wind and if they are there. if they are in the area and there hungry they wil at least come see whats the noise. they are curios. another thing they hate reflection and you should sit in an shadow. try to mix in the best you can. camo i think is an must but you don't need an camo painted rifle. try and pick the spots you use well and always look downwind they will never come upind or i have yet to see that happen. another thing keep the caller if possible away from you. the less amount of attention the better. and when you call one in, i always shoot on an half breath makes me less shaky and iam shaky. i use an 26' bipod and an total white cover suit and in the summer i use an ghillie suit green of cource. if u have ranchers in the area and tell them what your doing they will more than not let you hunt on there land. i have yet to see an farmer like coyotes either because of fighting the dog or calves, or making the dog bark all night long. if u want any other info thats not stated here let me knwo and ill do my best to help an fellow hunter. and another thing don't exhaust the same spot because its proball the same coyotes hearing the sounds and they will catch on then its very hard to get an good kill shot on an coyote. thats my thought on everything stated here.
sv7772
I agree with everyone get some videos like the primos ones they are great and taught me alot...
here is a list in no particular order:
1.) be quite when going into the field have a plan of where your setting up before you go walking around the more you move around the more sent you spread.
2.) make sure you can watch the down wind... more so when your using distress calls then howls and barks.
3.) Once in your "stand" wait and be quite for a 5min or so before calling observe the wind and where yotes might pop out.
4.) No movement or noise!
5.) Sent control no smoking, Chewing gum, no perfumes, No burping or Farting...lol......ect wash your clothes in sent free soap and use a sent blocker like Silver XP (works great for me)
6.) Get comfortable shooting your gun and being able to sholder it slowly and with out noise yotes like to sneek up on ya some times.
7.) if avail bring a shot gun with 00buck or SSG in case they get too close (had this happen last week two foxes popped out 5ft from me and I had to sit and wait for them to get 50yds before I could shoot then I only downed the one if I had my shot gun I would have got both.)
8.) Practice your calls start with a high pitched Female interogation howl do this call for your first set most times you will have a yote answer back once the yote answers back throw out a young male challenge make sure your watching for movement while your calling....wait 1-3min between calls...do challenge cals for 2-3 sets if you dont spot a yote move into distress calls (jack rabbit works well for me) start out low just incase the dogs are closer then you think you dont want to spook them...move up on volume for the 2nd set and wait 5min if you still see nothing throw out another female interogation if you dont get a reply most times the yotes have moved out of the area possably spooked or just not interested....
9.)Always wait 15-20 after your last call before leaving as they may be slow pokes.
These are things I try and have been working pretty good for me and my hunting buddies....Distress calling workes better come the end of march when it starts getting warmer and rabbits are moving around more....I find running distress calls right now are bringing me more FOX, raccoons and Fishers then yotes.
hope this helps and I'm sure I forgot some stuff people will add
here is a list in no particular order:
1.) be quite when going into the field have a plan of where your setting up before you go walking around the more you move around the more sent you spread.
2.) make sure you can watch the down wind... more so when your using distress calls then howls and barks.
3.) Once in your "stand" wait and be quite for a 5min or so before calling observe the wind and where yotes might pop out.
4.) No movement or noise!
5.) Sent control no smoking, Chewing gum, no perfumes, No burping or Farting...lol......ect wash your clothes in sent free soap and use a sent blocker like Silver XP (works great for me)
6.) Get comfortable shooting your gun and being able to sholder it slowly and with out noise yotes like to sneek up on ya some times.
7.) if avail bring a shot gun with 00buck or SSG in case they get too close (had this happen last week two foxes popped out 5ft from me and I had to sit and wait for them to get 50yds before I could shoot then I only downed the one if I had my shot gun I would have got both.)
8.) Practice your calls start with a high pitched Female interogation howl do this call for your first set most times you will have a yote answer back once the yote answers back throw out a young male challenge make sure your watching for movement while your calling....wait 1-3min between calls...do challenge cals for 2-3 sets if you dont spot a yote move into distress calls (jack rabbit works well for me) start out low just incase the dogs are closer then you think you dont want to spook them...move up on volume for the 2nd set and wait 5min if you still see nothing throw out another female interogation if you dont get a reply most times the yotes have moved out of the area possably spooked or just not interested....
9.)Always wait 15-20 after your last call before leaving as they may be slow pokes.
These are things I try and have been working pretty good for me and my hunting buddies....Distress calling workes better come the end of march when it starts getting warmer and rabbits are moving around more....I find running distress calls right now are bringing me more FOX, raccoons and Fishers then yotes.
hope this helps and I'm sure I forgot some stuff people will add
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makes no sence to me they hate reflection but the rifle doesnt matter? you want a flat color rifle like a flat black, White or camo 100% no shiny bluing on your varmint rig. You can buy camo scope and gun socks from mose outdoor stores if your using a shiny gun.
This is a touchy subject you want to be careful pay close attention to the wind the more you walk around the more sent you spread yotes will NOT cross your tracks and if they come close to fresh foot prints they wil be off and running in no time so set the caller up, up wind of your location possably hang it from a tree if there is one.....I have had luck with using the caller 25yds from me either up wind or cross wind from my location...you can use hand calls with the electronic caller this with give realism and depth to your calling like the dogs are moving around a bit....if you hand call and use the remote caller try to do it at the same time so they still cant 100% pin point your location or make the volume of your calls slightly lower then the electronic ones.
Well its 1:15 AM just came in from checking the cows,put some in the barn that are going to calve. If you were in this area you'd sure as hell know there is coyotes about. You can hear them howling in every direction. Now that said I think you'd have a tough time callling on my place because during the day they won't come around for fear of getting shot. Last nite one came right past the house, seen him walking in the moonlite on a snow patch. If your calling in areas that others are working they may be call shy. Make some drives in your areas during the nite and stop and listen. Talk to some of the cow guys, they'll soon tell you what you want to know. I went over and killed a bull yesterday for a guy for a BSE test . In a couple of days I know where a 1500 lb bait will be. Talk to the cow guys they're not all bad you know---------------Cowboy
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Excellent posts guys, some real knowledge here for sure.
