frustrating 111 fcxp .270

When your barrel gets warm to the touch STOP SHOOTING!

I can shoot 5shots out of my .264 with a Heavy fluted barrel before it is to hot to shoot with out risking damage. But my .300win with sporter contour barrel gets to hot after only 3rnds.

I suspect the cheap optics I wouldn't trust on a .22lr and over heating the barrel are the areas where you're going wrong.

First three rounds would have about a 2" group at 100yds and this is pretty much where she starts to go wild and the target may as well be on the move. I'll admit that I was putting rounds out at less than a minute of rest between them. And that the barrel would be pretty warm, bordering on hot.

I'll admit that I don't have the patience to have a coffee and lunch between shots, so she may very well end up being either put up for sale, or being nice and cozy in the cabinet as my first real rifle purchase.

What everyone is confirming is that the scope, rings and mounts belong in the trash and thin barrel doesn't really belong at the range.
 
I am going to insert at this point, a copy of a thread I started about a week ago on the General Firearms thread. I think it is appropriate to this conversation. Here is a copy of that post.
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I've said on these posts (a few times!) about me buying a Husqvarna 30-06, in December 1949. That rifle has travelled with me and shot more game, than any other rifle I have, or had. It has been on many trips in the mountains, with the roughest of terrain and weather encountered, that one is likely to come across. Days of being soaked, every day. One of its virtues is its light weight, for a sporting rifle with a 24" barrel. The outside diameter of the barrel at the muzzle is very little over ½ inch.
As of late it has been in semi-retirement, so yesterday I took a look at it. Didn't like the look of the barrel support on the front end of the stock. So, sanded it all out, put down some J-B Weld, wrapped one ply of Saran wrap around the barrel and put it together. I tightened the back screw and tightened the front screw, except for quarter of a turn.
Today I took it apart, took out the Saran wrap and tightened the screws full up. I estimated it took about 5 or 6 pounds to pull the barrel from the stock, which was exactly what I wanted, so went to the shooting range.
When I started to reload about 46 years ago, my very first loadings were for that same 30-06. The load was straight out of the Norma GunBugs Guide, 50 grains of Norma 203 and their 180 grain pointed, semi-boattail nickel coloured bullet. I used that load exclusively, until I could no longer get Norma 203 powder. I once chronographed the load and it made the 2700 fps, just like the Norma book said it would.
For the reintroduction of the rifle into the shooting world I was able to get a can of N203. I still had some of the same type Norma bullets, so I re-constructed my old load. I took one sighter, and adjusted the scope, which by the way, is a 4x, Bushnell Scopechief of about fifty years of age.
At the range I was trying to squeeze all the shots I could get onto my target squares, so my 30-06 group got a bit mixed into a poor group of the 45-70. Tried out a light load of LilGun in the 45-70, and it wasn't good. I circled the 45 holes before I shot the 30-06. I am not one to let the barrel cool between shots. With a properly bedded, good barrel on a rifle, it shouldn't be neccessary. Also, I am a fairly fast shooter at the bench, not wasting time with too long of an aim. I loaded the magazine with five of my loads, sat down and shot them off.
Here is my group at 100 metres. That figures out to about .85 MOA.
I would expect similar performance from any factory load of similar weight from the major ammunition companies, as there was certainly nothing special about the load I put together, loading with a powder measure, into run of the mill, at least once, fired brass.
 
What everyone is confirming is that the scope, rings and mounts belong in the trash and thin barrel doesn't really belong at the range.

Add in the fact that the 270win is not a good choice for a target rifle,and you have summed it up.Get yourself a smaller capacity cartridge,in a heavy barreled rifle,add a decent scope,and you will have a gun much more suited for use as a target rifle.The more powder you burn,the quicker the barrel heats up,the more time that you need to sit and let the barrel cool.A heavier barrel will also heat up more slowly,but it still needs time to cool.Something in the 260rem,7mm-08,or 308win would be much more suitable than a 270win for target use.
 
Simmon's is made by Tasco I think? ...

Not literally. The Tasco name has been owned by Bushnell for a few years, and even before they were bought by Bushnell they weren't actually making their product. They had things made for them by various overseas factories that could build things cheaply. And Bushnell acquired Simmons in 2008 so it may be that Bushnell is having some Simmons products made in the very same factories that make Tasco products.
 
Now you guys have me worried. I bought that same rifle, in the same caliber, a while back.

"http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=532960"

It has the Bushnell scope. I've been waiting for the work here to get finished before I try to sight it in. That and maybe quit snowing and warm up a touch. Should I even try it with the existing scope and mounts or should I bite the bullet and replace it before I even try?
 
Yes, try it with the existing scope. The problem with the cheap scopes is that manufacturing quality is inconsistent. You might have a good one.
 
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