Full Auto Ross? (now with pic)

bushwhacker said:
Looks like a MkIII Ross to the left of the 2 Huots, what are the 2 full stock to the extreme right? Ross MkII or 280?
Click to expand...

The ones on the extreme right are II** rifles.
To the left of these are two match rifles with sights for shooting in the supine position - on the back, feet toward the target.
 
Huot qualification trials

Some tests were performed at Hythe and were using the Lewis for comparison.

The Huot did better than the Lewis in some aspects of the trials, having an edge on ease of use and rapidity to meet the action. Got some issues with the extraction of very thick rims, though.
It did VERY well with mud, indeed. They filled the mechanism with mud, and it was found that after cleaning the 4-5 first rounds by hand, all the mud got out of the magazine after the 10th round.
It weighted 33 1/2 lbs loaded. It took 3.2 second to fire 25 rounds and 4 second to replace the spent magazine.
They were also impressed by the capacity of the gun to load while firing in any position. The issues (bad points) were mostly ergonomic points. the Huot showed less accurate than the Lewis, and the gun needed to be supported for shooting at 500 and 100 yards.

There have been an exhaustive testing done at Enfield, too. The test consisted in shooting 10 000 rounds, with cooling after 300 to 400 rounds, the parts being inspected every 1 000 rounds. They veryfied accuracy after firing 1 000, 4 000 (gas cylinder fouling occured) and 6 000 rounds. After firing 6 000 rounds, the accuracy was gone, the bullets keyholed at 200 yards target, and at the end of the trial there was alomst no rifling reminding.
These was issues concerning the assembly of the sheet metal parts (riveted).
The extraction capability impressed them, as well.
 
alrighty then, i stand corrected. this is what happens when you read to much and never talk about it. bah....

sorry for the misinformation.
 
Interesting, but methinks still rather pale in comparison to what Simonov was sending into the field against the Germans around the same time.

ie...SKS. :D
 
stormbringer said:
An EESA member just came back from a visit to the Ottawa War Museum.

He went for a tour of the armouries........

One of the pictures he took was of what I swear is a pair of ROSS RILFES that were FULL AUTO and had DRUM MAGAZINES!

He indicated that I was correct and that he was told that they were a couple from 6 examples there were made.

Has anyone here heard of this?
Click to expand...

Well... I know of a collector, just a "little" older than me, that was offered one of these full auto Ross's when he was a kid!!! I think he said it was back in the 50's or 60's and the fellow next door found out that he was just starting to collect Lee Enfields and Ross rifles. He calls him over one Saturday afternoon and asks if he'd like this full auto Ross rifle that he had. Well!! he had just started collecting Ross rifles and had never heard of such a thing, so he passed on it............. Needless to say, he's kind of regretted that ever since.... :eek:
 
Baribal said:
The Huot was a WWI design....
Click to expand...

As a rival to the Lewis gun, it was found to be cheaper and less vulnerable to mud/dirt, but also as having more excessive barrel wear for comparable amounts of expended ammo. A lovely firearm, nonetheless.

I sort of think of it as the Canadian infantryman's Avro Arrow...:(
 
BabySeal said:
I have handled one. Its currently at a reserve unit in BC.

Weighs about 20lbs I think and is anything but ergonomic. But its an interesting experiment.

There is a massive tube over the barrel and a cover over the action. It works somewhat like an SKS.
Click to expand...

... but probably more reliably, and definitely with a far greater degree of class!

;)

Neal
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom