full stock rifle accuracy?

[nomad 68]

Hello all,just wondering about the accuracy of manlicher style sporting rifles?Might have the opportunity to buy a ruger rsi international bolt in .308 win. Are these accurate?I hear th triggers aren't very good but timney should take care of that.If this doesn't pan out,i've been eying the zastava m70 in the same cal.How is the accuracy of these?Thanks.

 

[Cleftwynd]

I own a Ruger #1 RSI in 7x57, surprisingly it is one of my most accurate rifles! I can't say they all are, or that they are as accurate as a full floated barrel, but in my experience, though limited, if it works, it works!

I would think it is safe to say that in general they are less accurate than a normal stocked rifle though, don't see many in competition shooting do we.

 

[bearhunter]

Well, there are a lot of military rifles out there with full stocks, that reach to the end of the barrel or within a few inches of it that are very accurate, as long as they are set up properly, the bores are in good condition and of course, the wood used in the stocks has been cured and properly sealed. Warpage is the biggest enemy.

Every Ruger I've owned, has needed to have the little tang screw drilled and tapped to keep elevation consistent from round to round. Now, I'm an accuracy freak so that doesn't mean the Ruger No1 rifles aren't adequately accurate for hunting accuracy out to 300 meters, right out of the box.

That RSI the OP is questioning about, is likely fine for his/her purposes. It's up to you to learn the limitations of the rife.

Now, those short little rifles are very handy. They also kick like mules and the muzzle blast can be blinding.

The 7x57, a truly great cartridge/bullet design is one of the best out there. In modern rifles, such as the Ruger No1, the loads can be increased substantially. In all honesty though, the factory loads of 140 to 175 grains will do everything demanded of them and then some. Not only that, the felt recoil will be much milder.

The shorter bbl, pretty much negates hot loading as much of the powder will not be effective anyway. Remember, the 7x57 was designed to burn the available powders of the day, in 29 inch bbls. Some later powders might give you a smidgeon more velocity, but at what price to the shooter??

 

[9.3mauser]

My advice is to get it and not worry so much about the accuracy. It's a hunting rifle, not a benchrest rig. I have one of the older tang safety M77 Internationals in .308, and it's the neatest, handiest, and best looking full-stock rifle since the original Mannlicher-Schoenauer. The accuracy is adequate for what it needs to do.

 

[c-fbmi]

I have a total of 7 full stocked rifles, and have had several others. The accuracy is neither better nor worse than any other style of hunting rifles. Each rifle has it's likes and dislikes, my 7-08 Rem mod 7MS will keep 140 gn Sierras inside 3/4" @ 100, but my 250 Sav in the Ruger RSI is giving me fits and will only keep 2" @ 100 with any bullet and powder combo I've tried yet. My 360 Wagner (9.3X62) CZ FS will shoot 270 gn Speers consistently into 1 1/4" at 2600 fps and my 308 Ruger RSI loves 150 gn Noslers BT........As a group I haven't found them to be any less accurate than a sporter barrelled 1/2 stock. I find the short action Rugers, the CZ and the Mod 7 MS to be much superior quality to the Zastava.
I like all my hunting rifles to shoot into 1 1/4" @ 100 mtrs or better and my full stocks are no exception and all mine but the 250 Sav are there and I'm still playing with loads for it. It isn't stringing the shots though so I don't think the long wood is the problem. My 2 Mod 7 MS are fully floated though, kinda cool for a full stock.
I don't notice them being any louder than any other rifle and muzzle flash is a product of the powder you use, I love little short actioned full stocked rifles and have in fact shot out an old Ruger RSI first year of production, 243. Something over 10,000 rounds and that rifle would shoot 1/2" with 90 gn Speer flat base and IMR 4350.
I certainly wouldn't shy away from picking up an RSI in 308, they are a sweet little gun and will probably shoot as well as any other light and short barrelled rifle, mine certainly does with 150gn Nosler BT and IMR 4064.

 

['Boo]

............but my 250 Sav in the Ruger RSI is giving me fits and will only keep 2" @ 100 with any bullet and powder combo I've tried yet.

Mine shoots as good as any factory rifle I have owned. It is consistently sub-moa with some really exceptional moments.

 

[nomad 68]

Thanks everyone for chiming in.It is a sharp little rifle.

 

[blwebster]

I bought my son a Sako Manlicher in .30/06 with a 4x Leupold on it 25 years ago.
First trip to the range gave us sub MOA groups, and each year he went to the range in early August to sight it in. Still gets sub MOA groups, same scope, rings etc, and what is more, the point of impact has never changed.

Lessons learned - Sako is a great firearm to own
- Treat it well and it will do well for you.

One moose and an elk plus a whitetail buck each year. One cannot ask for much more.

 

[chasseur]

I have 3 mannlicher stocked rifles a Sako Bavarian carbine ,an Anschutz 1418 22lr and a Krico 22lr with set triggers and all three are very accurate rifles.

 

[gunrunner100]

I own a Ruger #1 RSI in 7x57, surprisingly it is one of my most accurate rifles!

Kind of apples vs oranges. The Ruger #1 uses a 2 piece stock vs a stutzen's one piece. Even the Sako's forend is 2 piece under the barrel/swivel band.