Future of the AR15?

[TheOnlyRightAnswer]

If for no other reason than its the number one rifle for competition sports, I don't see the AR going anywhere.

If anyone is going to coordinate a massive push back, it will be the guys who use their ARs weekly or monthly for competing, and have invested loads of time and money into that activity. (Plus they'll have IPSC/IDPA/whatever to get them coordinated)

There are limits on Orders-In-Council. They would have to argue that there was no legitimate target shooting purpose for them. And given that it's all they are used for and ownership numbers are high, it's an argument the government would lose. Restricted is as far as they can take it.

I'm amused by the idea that some think the only reason the government that supposedly hates ARs hasn't prohibited them is because a couple of gun groups asked them nicely not to. It's a good myth for getting donations though. Got to fuel that fight against the government gun grab! The ARs aren't going anywhere but you can't fear-monger by examining facts.

 

[dan belisle]

CForgive me if I'm wrong as this happened when I was a very, very young man, but were FAL's not all full auto?

FAL's were here in full auto, converted full auto(mechanically modified to only fire semi auto) and semi auto only. That's why you find them in three different 12 (?) Classes. It's really just more government BS, we've never had a crime committed with one. - dan

 

[dan belisle]

I guess your memory failed you when it came to the receiver in those firearms.

Which means what exactly? - dan

 

[rkm456]

FAL's were here in full auto, converted full auto(mechanically modified to only fire semi auto) and semi auto only. That's why you find them in three different 12 (?) Classes. It's really just more government BS, we've never had a crime committed with one. - dan

I wasn't suggesting gun laws have logic applied to them. But it's no secret that the general public is full of people that believe full auto is too dangerous for us peasants to own.

 

[blaxsun]

But it's no secret that the general public is full of people that believe full auto is too dangerous for us peasants to own.

It's also no secret that there are a lot of 'peasants' (as you put it) that shouldn't be allowed to operate power tools - let alone a firearm. Like the idiots that started a wildfire near Ft. MCMurray shooting tannerite, for example.

There's a common misconception that full auto firearms are fairly commonplace in the US when this couldn't be further from the truth. There are substantial legal, background and financial hoops to jump through for this to happen - so most 'peasants' in the US are no closer to full auto firearms than we are.

 

[DT741]

Anyone has a access to information about the numbers of AR15 registered in Canada ?

I dont know how to do it but will gladly do it if explained how

 

[TheOnlyRightAnswer]

Anyone has a access to information about the numbers of AR15 registered in Canada ?

I dont know how to do it but will gladly do it if explained how

Here's the website to request Access to Information from the RCMP. It explains the process and it also allows you to make informal requests to completed access requests, such as the one already requested about the number of AR-15s registered by province.

A note, the system has never had a lot of funding so depending on how the information was provided originally, informal requests might take a while to process. Also, if you are making new requests it is best to learn about what departments handle the information you are looking for as they are not researchers, they respond as best they can to what is being requested.

 

[TheOnlyRightAnswer]

FAL's were here in full auto, converted full auto(mechanically modified to only fire semi auto) and semi auto only. That's why you find them in three different 12 (?) Classes. It's really just more government BS, we've never had a crime committed with one. - dan

Bank robberies aren't a crime now?

If you want to blame someone for FN FALs for being banned, look to FN themselves. Their semi-auto receivers were weak attempts to change their fully auto receivers and they had a habit of doing things like stamping fully automatic firearms as semi-automatic and then selling them into the civilian market.

 

[rkm456]

It's also no secret that there are a lot of 'peasants' (as you put it) that shouldn't be allowed to operate power tools - let alone a firearm.

Even though I disagree with it, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. I don't really have any idea what the rest of your post pertains to though.

 

[dan belisle]

Bank robberies aren't a crime now?

If you want to blame someone for FN FALs for being banned, look to FN themselves. Their semi-auto receivers were weak attempts to change their fully auto receivers and they had a habit of doing things like stamping fully automatic firearms as semi-automatic and then selling them into the civilian market.

I stand corrected. A bank robbery in 1962 was a little before my gun owning career, I was 5. So, one crime then. The horror. - dan

 

[trebor2880]

But it's no secret that the general public is full of people that believe full auto is too dangerous for us peasants to own.

I'd feel safer being around a dozen people armed with M-16's, than one person with a single shot .223 and a pound of tannerite.

 

[Dietz]

Strength in numbers. Does anyone know how many AR's (including all it's variants) are registered in Canada currently?

Can you imagine the backlash if they tried to ban that?

 

[Grock-co]

the future of the AR-15 is intertwined with the next high profile mass shooting that makes use of an AR-15, if and when that ever happens. The fear is that it will also include all semi-automatics as well, lets hope it never happens.

 

[K-Roc]

The trend has been set for the next 2 years... it is the Liberal govt allowing the RCMP to "pick around the edges" of our firearm laws. The Ruger 10/22 mags, 80% AR-15 receivers are an example of this. I expect more of that. Nothing BIG like banning the AR-15 or banning semi autos. Just my 2 cents but that seems to be the track we are on now. There is almost 0 public demand for it outside of Quebec. So it seems like the Libs are content to let the RCMP run wild for a bit...

 

[rkm456]

I'd feel safer being around a dozen people armed with M-16's, than one person with a single shot .223 and a pound of tannerite.

This may come as a shock to people here, but we aren't the "general public" We're loony tunes who own guns that we don't "need".

 

[Dietz]

The trend has been set for the next 2 years...it is the Liberal govt allowing the RCMP to "pick around the edges" of our firearm laws. The Ruger 10/22 mags, 80% AR-15 receivers are an example of this. I expect more of that. Nothing BIG like banning the AR-15 or banning semi autos. Just my 2 cents but that seems to be the track we are on now. There is almost 0 public demand for it outside of Quebec. So it seems like the Libs are content to let the RCMP run wild for a bit...

The RCMP has gone rogue and has taken decisions by themselves without government authority many times in the past.

 

[blaxsun]

I'd feel safer being around a dozen people armed with M-16's, than one person with a single shot .223 and a pound of tannerite.

I dunno man, if we're talking Norincos and NEAs...

Even though I disagree with it, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

There are also plenty of people who shouldn't have access to power tools, either.

 

[K-Roc]

The RCMP has gone rogue and has taken decisions by themselves without government authority many times in the past.

Do they have the "authority" to do something like ban the AR-15? Or even say ban semi autos? The answer IMO is no, but I guess they could try?

 

[rkm456]

There are also plenty of people who shouldn't have access to power tools, either.

As I said the first time I quoted it, you're entitled to your opinion even if I don't agree with it. Free country? Do what you want, and deal with the consequences.

 

[Dietz]

As I said the first time I quoted it, you're entitled to your opinion even if I don't agree with it. Free country? Do what you want, and deal with the consequences.

I work in construction and Blaxsun is 100% right, I wouldn't even call that an opinion, it's a fact.