"FUTURE WEAPONS" 416 Barrett

Steve David

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Did anyone watch "Future Weapons" last night with the 416 Barrett? What an awsome shooting caliber, along with the "Barrett Optical Ranging System", that was a sweet set up!
 
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Barrett claims it can propel a 400gr solid brass boattail spitzer bullet out of the 29 inch barrel at 3250fps (using a proprietary propellant -- but at what elevation and temperature?), giving it a ballistic coefficient of .943-.989 (the article contains both numbers), and keeping it supersonic out to 2500 yards (1.4 miles). The claimed energy at 1K yards is actually higher than the .50 BMG (though it drops below the .50 beyond that).
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The "shoot-off" was bull####. Some independent testing on this would be a good read, Future Weapons was just the Barret guys pluggin Barret product. It's still doesn't out perform the .50 even with thier claimed numbers, but it's probably a little nicer to shoot.
 
I like the show Future Weapons, but sometimes, for an ex SEAL, the guy just gets things wrong. His comment about bigger bullets being more accurate longer just kind of made me wince.

I think there is a reason the US chose to the smaller 5.56 round, accuracy at a longer range as compared to 7.62 x 39.


Nice round, wonder how long it goes supersonic.
 
That was an excellent show. What a round. 2,500 yards and still deadly & accurate.
Now if only they would get a new person for the show. He seems to be putting himself as " an ex navy seal " and super expert on everything before some of the facts.
 
for a navy seal he really seems clueless on a lot of the finer points. lasgt nights shoot off was bull#### to the max. so many variables.

and the kraken test. what a joke :D
 
I didn't see the show but have seen comparisons. The US simply wants a kinda gentler LR material destruction rifle for their soldiers and everyone is trying to come up with the better mousetrap.

The 338 Lapua was the first attempt way back when and has come back very strong.

The 408CT was a privateers attempt and may still have life.

The 416Barrett does offer some real world benefits when compared to BMG. It will recoil less. It will have a lower noise/concussion signature. It will work in the existing Barrett rifles. It has the potential to extract all the accuracy available in this rifle. Has a strong consumer market to feed so the project can earn its keep from a wider market.

Problems - propreitory bullet and case, another specialized ammo choice for logistics, too big for some jobs, too small for others, no global/nato support yet.

Personally, I see the 338 Lapua gaining more ground in this sector because many countries are already using this cartridge. New bullet tech is giving amazing LR performance that rivals even the BMG as far as ballistics go- big bullet will always win on impact. A cartridge that the average soldier can manage well. If more juice is required, just go to the full length case and smiles all around.

Impact energy, even from the mighty BMG at 2000yds and further is not spectacular. For soft targets sure, but then why use something so big?

Besides if a soldier needs to engage a hard target at 2000yds, wouldn't a smart bomb do a better job?

For us shooters, the new Wildcat 265gr AT bullets are proving to be very exciting. US shooters are reporting they are surviving even when pushed upwards of 3400fps. One has shot beyond 2500yds with 3000yds coming up. Nothing exotic for a case is necessary - RUM, Lapua, Rigby, CT. All will run very happily on LR magnum primers and common powders.

338-408CT wildcats in 30" pipes are pushing this bullet as high as 3500fps (happiest around 3300 to 3400fps) with sub MOA LR accuracy. BC is calculated to be in the 9's.

Any BMG based case still has the nuisance and cost of trying to secure a reliable supply of primers.

Jerry
 
His BIO from Discovery's website...
Richard "Mack" Machowicz's expertise with soldier craft and military hardware comes from his experience as a 10-year veteran of the U.S. Navy SEALs. During his service tenure, he participated in numerous tactical operations with SEAL Team ONE and TWO. While at SEAL Team TWO he was attached to the training cadre as the Leading Petty Officer of Land, Mountain and Arctic Warfare.

Mack has over 20 years experience in the martial arts, studying such systems as muay thai boxing, Jeet Kune Do, kickboxing, aikido, jujitsu, savate, arnis and karate. He was a certified instructor in the Naval Special Warfare Combat Fighting Instructor Course, a Naval Special Warfare Scout/Sniper and has received multiple black belts. Machowicz also served as a personal protection specialist for many high profile individuals within the political arena, business world and entertainment industry.

As founder of the Bukido Institute and creator of the Bukido Training System, Machowicz teaches a performance philosophy that uses unarmed combat as a pathway for exploring the dynamics of doubt, hesitation, second-guessing, stress, pain, fatigue and fear. Bukido shows clients -- including professional athletes and entertainment industry executives -- how to maximize their ability to focus in any environment.

Machowicz's work has been featured in many popular publications including the Los Angeles Times and Men's Fitness, and showcased on ESPN, Lifetime and Fox Sports.

His book, “Unleash the Warrior Within: Develop the Focus, Discipline, Confidence and Courage You Need to Achieve Unlimited Goals” (Marlowe & Company, 2002), is now available in four languages. Mack is also co-founder of the film company Warpath Entertainment and a member of the Screen Actors Guild.
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B said:
He may be good with his hands but he doesn't seem to know s**t all about firearms.
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Yeah, I've heard him say some stuff on his show that made even a beginner raise an eyebrow...that's why I thought I'd post up his BIO in light of what some of the poeple are saying. Interesting about his depth of knowledge and being a member of America's elite forces for so long, and also being one of their instructors...
 
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