G.33/40 Canadian Market Value?

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Hello Everyone,

Let me start by saying I intend this thread to be a general discussion on values. I have an idea of what these go for in the states, but I don't see too many up here. Do these rifles demand a premium over U.S. market prices at all? I'm hoping to get a rough price range, starting from a non matching but nice shooter, to a fully matched collector grade rifle... but I have the feeling these rifles might fall into the "take any condition you can get your hands on" category... hah
 
As always value is subjective but this is what I've seen. These rifles aren't rare(in the US) but they very popular,
Which makes a really good one rare if it's for sale. If the gun is all matching, unsanded and complete with correct rod and hood, they start st $3500usd. A truly good one doesn't come available too often. Lots of bolt mm. And complete mm, and sanded etc guns sell for less. I got the one in this link for less but I had offered that, cause I know they sell for that and more.
In Canada? It's a lot harder to say as the market is smaller but the pool of guns is smaller yet. I've seen some Norweigian ones sell for $2500 in the past year. And another one that is all correct and matching, less cod notion then mine and with a small post war serial number on the stock, go for $3500.

So I think fr an all germsn one, matching, no issues, $3000 will be a low point even in Canada.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...l-German-G-33-40-Mountain-Carbine-and-bayonet
 
Thanks for the response and very nice G.33/40 you have there! Especially because it's a 3 piece stock, from what I understand those are a little bit harder to come by.
 
The G33/40 is not a rare rifle. Just to give you an idea, there were lots on the market and in gun stores 10 to 20 years ago. I remember them for $600 for a bolt mismatch and sometimes 2 for sale at a time in a gun store and some on consignment. An SVT-40 at that time was $335.
 
The thing with 33/40's is that there has been a steady attrition of guns scrapped for the actions. The American Custom Gunmakers Guild practically made it a cottage industry and they had a forum pretty recently specializing on turning these actions into high-end $10K+ custom hunting rifles.

Every day, there are fewer left.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
The G33/40 is not a rare rifle. Just to give you an idea, there were lots on the market and in gun stores 10 to 20 years ago. I remember them for $600 for a bolt mismatch and sometimes 2 for sale at a time in a gun store and some on consignment. An SVT-40 at that time was $335.
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I think your thinking 30 or 40 years ago.
 
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So your saying in 1997 there were gun stores, with more than one 33/40 on the rack at a time. which stores were they?
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The Soldier Shop in Calgary. Close to Stampede Park. $600 Canadian. Store no longer in business.

The Jaws of CGN readers now hits the floor!

You have to remember it was the early stages of the internet and there were deals to be had without the "Hype" (that you see on CGN - cheerleaders and cheerleading for price!) and defaulting to the US sites for price. Everything became Global instead of Local. IE: Gun shows (local). For Buyers today the Internet made availability fantastic at a price that screws you today. Great for Sellers now >>> Big $$$.

Also picked up a G43 duv44 for $225.00 and a G43 mag for $40. The rest is history....

In conclusion, we were better off without the Internet for gun prices.

I liked the days when a monthly letter from a business would be mailed out to you with a price of the guns for sale. IE: Jose Reis, and many others...
 
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This isn't really jaw dropping news. It's pretty well known that the internet, movies, and a number of other factors have dramatically increased the interest and values of WW2 weapons. The internet has also drastically increased the amount of information and knowledge in the collecting community. 20 years ago you bought a "matching" K98k out of a news letter for 600 bucks. Then, when your scrubbed, renumbered, sanded pile of humped up garbage arrived, you happily added it to your collection only to find out 20 years later it's now only worth 400 dollars.
 
That's Tragic. If my experiences were like that 20 years ago, I might have stopped collecting! But they weren't. I guess mileage will vary as it does today, some for the worse and some for the better.

The jaw dropping part was my date was bang on and not 20 years sooner and not 1977. I don't want to be an older fart than I am.

jbmauser said:
This isn't really jaw dropping news. It's pretty well known that the internet, movies, and a number of other factors have dramatically increased the interest and values of WW2 weapons. The internet has also drastically increased the amount of information and knowledge in the collecting community. 20 years ago you bought a "matching" K98k out of a news letter for 600 bucks. Then, when your scrubbed, renumbered, sanded pile of humped up garbage arrived, you happily added it to your collection only to find out 20 years later it's now only worth 400 dollars.
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If that was around the time Jim was closing the soldiers shop , I would say it was not the norm. and most of the G43s that went through his shop that I remember, were in the $800-900 range around that time.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
That's Tragic. If my experiences were like that 20 years ago, I might have stopped collecting! But they weren't. I guess mileage will vary as it does today, some for the worse and some for the better.

The jaw dropping part was my date was bang on and not 20 years sooner and not 1977. I don't want to be an older fart than I am.
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Tragic but a common thing to happen pre internet days. Lots of old collections are full of humped junk because nobody knew any better back then.
 
Agreed. In modern times, huge gun collections get seen and come to auction etc, like Craig Browns collection. Every rifle looks cleaned to me. Amd the authors of the newest books view huge collections and have stated that up to half can be bad.
The Internet has extended the knowledge a thousand times.
I'd rather have the Internet and higher prices over resorting to Backbone of the Wehrmacht. Lol

And Coyote you are right, G33/40 were made in good numbers, and they may have been common at one point but a totally matching one that someone hasn't fingerblasted by 2017 is rare.
 
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Flip through the ss chapter of backbone and you'll see that two of the seven death head rifles are humped. That's probably better odds than you'll see on the web, but people like to take these older books as gospel. The web has much better info, but you need to wade through a ton of #### to find it
 
Everybody remembers the cheap price of guns in the " Good Old Days ", but forgets the low wages and how long it took to pay for the cheap guns !
 
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