G10 Knuckle?

gcarms said:
And BroColt is right... The interpretation of an items legality is totally up to the officer. I had an argument with a local Parks Officer about the legality of short barrelled shotguns. This person who I feel is actually a very intelligent individual, flat out told me that if they saw someone with an 8" shotgun in the bush, they'd seize it and arrest them. I had to show this person with information on my phone that they aren't prohib and why. It took a bit of a fight to make them see why.

And another on another occasion, I had a Freind who's employee was cuffed to the bumper of his truck in Edmonton for 30 minutes while his truck was searched at a check stop. He works in GC and our local Home Hardware had a sale on ammo. He bought 1500 rounds of 9mm at the sale and was heading home. He got asked at a check stop about firearms in the vehicle and when he showed them his hunting rifle, they saw the 9mm ammo. They asked where his handgun was, he said "locked up at home where it should be" and told them why he had so much ammo. The officers told him that for his safety and theirs, they'd have to detain him during the search and cuffed him to his bumper like a criminal for 30 minutes. Right on the yellow head, because he had ammo in his trunk.

They interpreted the ammo as a threat, embarrassed the poor guy and cuffed him and he did nothing wrong.
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Both of your examples actually show that Brocolt is not right. He seems to think owning these knuckles would put him at a greater risk of wrongful arrest than he already is by owning just his guns...and thinks he is protecting his PAL by not owning such a "gray area" item as he calls it...when in fact your examples show that by getting a PAL and some guns, he's already very much at risk of suffering the legal consequences of an officer's interpretation of the law. Yet that doesn't seem to have stopped him from owning guns, so i'm not sure why it stops him from owning these knuckles.

Youza.
 
Ok.. I see your point.

But what I'm trying to say is, if you own these and they are In Your pocket, in your glove box, whatever... The officer may seize them and fine you and start you down path of losing your guns, court, etc. Probably won't happen if you had a deer rifle in the truck. I'm not saying it's right or wrong to own these, but I'd say they definatly increase your chances of running into trouble because you have them.

Same principal as a hash pipe in your luggage at the airport. You may not have any drugs on you, but the fact that you own such an item makes you a target of suspicious eyes. Hence increases the chances of trouble.
 
gcarms said:
And BroColt is right... The interpretation of an items legality is totally up to the officer. I had an argument with a local Parks Officer about the legality of short barrelled shotguns. This person who I feel is actually a very intelligent individual, flat out told me that if they saw someone with an 8" shotgun in the bush, they'd seize it and arrest them. I had to show this person with information on my phone that they aren't prohib and why. It took a bit of a fight to make them see why.
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The problem here is the officer, right or wrong don't care if it cost you $5000+ dollars to fight a legal case over G10 Knuckle or a short shotgun barrel is legal or not.

The officer doesn't pay a price at all if they are wrong and you are right, no money or personal loss comes from their end, other then tax payers funds. So they have nothing to lose if you are wrongfully charged.

I for one will not chance this. I do have to deal with police once in a while some are Nice some are D!cks.
 
What other hard substances, other than "metal", would be legal to use for this? There is come really tough polymers out there. It's got my curiosity up and running. Yeah, I know that's what killed the cat.
 
Rescue85 said:
What other hard substances, other than "metal", would be legal to use for this? There is come really tough polymers out there. It's got my curiosity up and running. Yeah, I know that's what killed the cat.
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Well apparently as long as its not metal, its good to go. The law states metal, so anything but?

Youza.
 
Galt said:
15 The device known as “Brass Knuckles” and any similar device consisting of a band of metal with one or more finger holes designed to fit over the fingers of the hand.


http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-98-462/fulltext.html


METAL makes a prohibited device. Anything else is not.
At this point it is intent and use that makes it a weapon.
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Note that a wedding ring is a band of metal with one or more finger holes designed to fit over the fingers of the hand. Some people need to give their head a shake about getting arrested for possession of an item that no-one has ever been arrested for possessing.
 
Juster said:
Note that a wedding ring is a band of metal with one or more finger holes designed to fit over the fingers of the hand. Some people need to give their head a shake about getting arrested for possession of an item that no-one has ever been arrested for possessing.
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But I would guess the key words would be "or any similar device". I think we can both agree that although a ring is in fact a metal band designed to fit over the finger, it doesn't really qualify as something similar to the device known as brass knuckles. Not in design, and certainly not in potential or intent.

Youza.
 
Rescue85 said:
What other hard substances, other than "metal", would be legal to use for this? There is come really tough polymers out there. It's got my curiosity up and running. Yeah, I know that's what killed the cat.
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Polycarbonate would be near indestructible. Make em like 1/2" thick..
 
Acrylic, leather, plastic and Micarta knuckles are legal here. Legal to own anyway. Use it on someone and you'll have a bad day in court. The law defines brass knuckles as a band of metal that goes around the fist. Because the word metal is in the definition knuckles made of any other material aren't prohibited. I wouldn't suggest carrying them unless you have a good lawyer though
 
If worried.. carry a carabiner.
Same thing as the G10..all about intent,not the item.
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Rescue85 said:
What other hard substances, other than "metal", would be legal to use for this? There is come really tough polymers out there. It's got my curiosity up and running. Yeah, I know that's what killed the cat.
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Pure diamond. Hard and not metal. Plus, Kim Kardashian says it's stylish.
 
Juster said:
Note that a wedding ring is a band of metal with one or more finger holes designed to fit over the fingers of the hand. Some people need to give their head a shake about getting arrested for possession of an item that no-one has ever been arrested for possessing.
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That's why bikers used to or may still wear those huge rings with eagles faces and Vikings etc. on them.
 
doc25 said:
That's why bikers used to or may still wear those huge rings with eagles faces and Vikings etc. on them.
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laurencen said:
they also carried a short piece of chain in the pocket,
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Yeah most times those biker boys sure don't fight fair, but so long as you know that going in (and are able to keep the fight one on one) you have a chance with or w/o your trusted G10.;)

Cheers D
 
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