G19X is HERE!!!!

For anyone hating on this gun, handle it first. It’s perfect!

Had a Vickers extended mag release kicking around, so I threw it on there

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Yes, it's a Glock 17 with a shorter slide. If you've handled or shot a 17 you've got the same thing here except with a shorter slide.

i noticed today that the Rampart site states these use Gen4 mags.
i guess i assumed these would run the Gen5 mags.
but now that im sitting here thinking about it i guess the reason we got the Gen5 was because of the changes made for this gun when they put it in for testing to the US military, then they incorporated those changes and put out the Gene5, so makes sense that it would use the Gen4 i guess.

so would the 19X be like a Gen4.5 as its the step between the 4 and 5?
oh the things we think about when relaxing on holidays and drinking a relaxing drink in the shade.

You realize the difference between gen 5 mags and others is simply the orange follower and the extended toe on the floor plate?

Well that wouldn't be glock perfection now would it ? ...lol...

Changing sights and controls is a personal thing, no sense wasting money on parts not everyone wants. And the Perfection slogan is only part of the slogan. The entire slogan reads "Perfection in simplicity". It's just a slogan, Are GMC's really "like a rock"??
 
Yes, it's a Glock 17 with a shorter slide. If you've handled or shot a 17 you've got the same thing here except with a shorter slide.

Ya, I've got 9 Glocks, I know what it is.

Like I said, handle it before you hate on it. It handles better than a Glock 17
 
The 19x is not "a Glock 17 with a shorter slide." The grip on it is the same length as the 17, but it's actually more narrow due to the military requirement of a modular grip system, so people with medium to small hands will likely find it has a far more comfortable purchase.

Personally the only negative I see in this gun is that it can't handle a standard Gen 5 magazine.
 

I got the joke. In the interest of educating others who didn't get it, I post the facts.

Ya, I've got 9 Glocks, I know what it is.

Like I said, handle it before you hate on it. It handles better than a Glock 17

Have handled it, it's no different.

The 19x is not "a Glock 17 with a shorter slide." The grip on it is the same length as the 17, but it's actually more narrow due to the military requirement of a modular grip system, so people with medium to small hands will likely find it has a far more comfortable purchase.

Personally the only negative I see in this gun is that it can't handle a standard Gen 5 magazine.

A whole 1mm narrower!!(not more narrow) Someone call CNN!!! :rolleyes: That's 1mm narrower over other gen 5 Glocks, it's actually 1mm thicker than a gen 4 or gen 3 according to the Glock website. A standard Glock works well for over 90% of the population, comfort is not a requirement for marksmanship fundamentals.
 
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Will a 17 slide fit on it?

Couldn't tell you to be honest, never thought about it. Doesn't matter either way, dimensionally it is a Glock 17 frame with Glock 17 parts.

ETA: So I jut put my 19 slide on my 17 frame(with 17 barrel) and the 17 slide on my 19 frame. The 19 slide/17 frame fits and functions, the other way around does fit but the recoil spring assembly is too short to work properly.. Interesting.
 
Couldn't tell you to be honest, never thought about it. Doesn't matter either way, dimensionally it is a Glock 17 frame with Glock 17 parts.

ETA: So I jut put my 19 slide on my 17 frame(with 17 barrel) and the 17 slide on my 19 frame. The 19 slide/17 frame fits and functions, the other way around does fit but the recoil spring assembly is too short to work properly.. Interesting.

Does the dust cover of the 17 frame not come out past the end of the 19 slide?
 
Does the dust cover of the 17 frame not come out past the end of the 19 slide?

It surely does, looks odd but does cycle. Keep in mind that was a 19 slide with 17 barrel and 17 frame. 19 barrels won't work with 17 lock blocks.

So a Glock 17 handles the same as a 34? It's the same thing, just shorter...

Yes, the 34 is the same frame as a 17. If you're talking about "feel" well there is a slight difference, however it boils down to this. Either you can shoot or you can't. Seeking mechanical advantages(perceived in most cases) is simply lying to yourself about your abilities. It's odd how people thought the 34 was all the rage with the "increased sight radius and forward mass for recoil control":rolleyes: and now it's the flip side with the 19x where they claim the shorter 19 slide is faster for follow ups and "balances" better.
 
Without a link to a story it's just a picture of a damaged hand. Giving you the benefit of the doubt this guy placed his palm over the E port and rode the slide home until the round was compressed between the barrel/chamber and the ejector.. Not a very smart guy. Cycling the slide should be done with conviction and then RELEASED when rearward travel has stopped.

You do know who Major General Julian S Hatcher is, right Bob???


No the shooter had his hand over the ejection port, the cartridge hit his palm dropped back in the chamber as the slide was released jamming the cartridge into the hood of the slide with the base of the cartridge, specifically the primer hitting the ejector. Upon ignition the case cannot go rearward and the bullet can't go forward hence the pressure is released when the case let go. You can adopt a different approach to unload and show clear or piss on an electric fence. No matter to me.

Take Care

Bob
ps Hatcher didn't jam a case into a barrel hood and a primer into an ejector either. Yes I have one of hos books.
 
It surely does, looks odd but does cycle. Keep in mind that was a 19 slide with 17 barrel and 17 frame. 19 barrels won't work with 17 lock blocks.



Yes, the 34 is the same frame as a 17. If you're talking about "feel" well there is a slight difference, however it boils down to this. Either you can shoot or you can't. Seeking mechanical advantages(perceived in most cases) is simply lying to yourself about your abilities. It's odd how people thought the 34 was all the rage with the "increased sight radius and forward mass for recoil control":rolleyes: and now it's the flip side with the 19x where they claim the shorter 19 slide is faster for follow ups and "balances" better.

It's time for you consider that people who are good and experienced shooters do notice these subtle differences. You obviously don't. As I said, you can have your opinion. But you don't speak for all of us.
 
AB here is your out of battery firing of a 9MM cartridge due to the over hand method popping the cartridge back into the chamber. As I said before surgery was involved in the two instances I saw. Here is another:

so much for your harmless BS,

Take Care

Bob

The overhand method also known as the clam shell method on the rear of the slide has been taught for ages. It's even effective in extreme stress two way range situations, while also being effective if there is sweat, blood or water involved. High stress and you want gross motor skills. I have seen more than my fair share of numpties being trained and yet I have yet to ever see that happen. That right there takes some serious talent.

That being said, I hope the person made a full recovery from that injury.

Anyways still waiting for my G19X. From the photos shown by others I won't be disappointed.
 
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Epoxy7 the two I saw left the shooter with brass still in his hand after surgery. Apparently there were some pieces to close to nerves to be removed surgically. I suspect this type of injury is more common then either of us think. There is no reason I can think of to use the method to unload your pistol.

I just got back from the WA IDPA State match (As the CSO on one stage I unloaded 174 Shooters}. Of those using this method I would estimate 80% of the shooters covered the ejection port with their weak hand while pulling the slide back. I also suspect, if you asked them, other than those who attempt to grab the cartridge as it ejects, would claim their hand did not cover the port.

I posted this picture, aside from a retort to AB, on the assumption the thread is being read by enthusiastic Glock shooters, some of whom may just be starting out and may not have been "trained" well enough to avoid covering the ejection port while emulating those who apparently have.

Personally, I do not teach this method primarily because I recognize the potential potential needless risk the new shooter is exposed to. I am not sure why the method is taught.

Take Care

Bob
 
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