G34 for IDPA/IPSC

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I just bought a G34 for IDPA and IPSC. I know it will be great for IDPA and is allowed in SSP.

My G17 is allowed in production for IPSC but not my G34. I will have to shoot the G34 in Standard. Will I be at a disadvantage using a stock G34 in Standard compared to what others are using or does it hold its own?

I know a G34 would definitely be at a disadvantage in the Open division.
 
cbabes said:
I just bought a G34 for IDPA and IPSC. I know it will be great for IDPA and is allowed in SSP.

My G17 is allowed in production for IPSC but not my G34. I will have to shoot the G34 in Standard. Will I be at a disadvantage using a stock G34 in Standard compared to what others are using or does it hold its own?

I know a G34 would definitely be at a disadvantage in the Open division.
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yep you will be sored as Minor so you will have to shoot all A's
 
G34 shoots 9mm minor which will be a disadvantage since Standard Division required a Major power factor. You will score minor in Standard Division out of a G34. However, if you shoot all A's; you are good to go...:D
 
You will be shooting ipsc standard minor. If you hit the A-zone it scores the same, but it scores less if the hit is outside the A-zone.

MAJOR
A=5
C=4
D=2

Minor
A=5
C=3
D=1

So yes there is a slight disadvantage to shooting minor.
 
cbabes,
if you are serious or want to see results sooner then later find about IPSC training.
Gun is only as good as the guy behind him.

Cheers
 
cbabes, sorry but I have some bad news for you. It's true that the guy behind the trigger does make a difference, but I suspect your gun will be holding you back more sooner than later. I know, I know....some of the top shooters in the world shoot for Glock or have shot for Glock in the past. Well, that was them.

For the record, I will state that my first IPSC race gun was a Glock 35.

After a little while of getting to know the game of IPSC, I began to think about how to best improve my gun. Careful consideration led to the following change - I upgraded my Glock to an SVI.

That's really the essence of it. Bringing a Glock to a match is like running a Prius around a racetrack against something considerably more sporty. True, you can account for the deficit, but you really have to work for it. Make no mistake, the Glock is an elegant design and a reliable gun, but the 'standard' in the Standard division is a little more thoroughbred than that. This is not a shot about talent or the quality of the Glock product, but rather an admission that the Standard division in IPSC sports some serious race hardware. I'm talking about the SVI/STI guns and the CZ/Tanfo guns with some massaging thrown in for good measure. Of course, the cost of that sort of thing is reflected. If you make it out to Guelph anytime soon, pm me in advance and I'll try to bring my gear out for you to evaluate. That seems the best way I've discovered to paint the clearest picture.

If you ever think about taking that plunge to the proverbial next level, you may also consider that your Glock will eat just about any ammo you can feed it, while some of the more exotic guns more or less make reloading a mandatory expense.

Hint - you will have just as much fun learning to play the game with your Glock, but you get to keep your wallet in better health.

Cheers


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Thanks guys. I planned on just shooting production for IPSC so I guess I'll stick to my G17 or G21 and use the G34 for IDPA.

Honestly I wish I researched this more before I bought the gun. I shot a Level I in Alliston earlier this week for my BB qualifier. I shot production and didn't do bad at all with my G17. I figured a G34 would fit perfect.

I misread that the G34 was good to go for production but that is in the US not Canada. Anyone know why that is by the way?
 
Any reason why you picked up a G34 when you already have a G17?

I thought about doing that sometime ago, but ultimately decided against it. I wasn't sure the benefits of a longer slide would actually result in any lower times.

I've never actually shot the G34 though, so I'm curious to see how it works for you.
 
Onagoth said:
Any reason why you picked up a G34 when you already have a G17?

I thought about doing that sometime ago, but ultimately decided against it. I wasn't sure the benefits of a longer slide would actually result in any lower times.

I've never actually shot the G34 though, so I'm curious to see how it works for you.
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Impulse. :redface: Seriously though I have heard time and again it's awesome for IDPA and will increase your time by the increased accuracy. I guess I will find out for sure as soon as the transfer is done.

I believe you know Steve David. He raves about the gun.
 
Not only did I misread that the G34 was legal in production in Canada. From what I see it isn't legal in the US either. That's the problem with researching on the internet. LOL

I thought I read Dave Sevigny used a G34 in productoin IPSC but he shoots a G17 in IPSC production and G34 in USPSA production.

I know he is sponsored by Glock so it doesn't mean all that much but here is a list of what guns he shoots in what games.

USPSA Production
GLOCK 34

USPSA Limited
GLOCK 35

IPSC Production
GLOCK 17

IDPA Stock
GLOCK 34
GLOCK 23
GLOCK 17
GLOCK 37

IDPA Custom
GLOCK 21
 
I shot a G17 for many years in IDPA and it was fantastic, then bought the G34 and in my opinion it is that much better for competition purpose. I found it to be a more controllable gun, better balanced and more accurate.
 
Shoot the sport at least for a year before worrying about changing guns, there is far more to be learned technique wise that will help your scores far more than changing gear.
 
PH Racing said:
Shoot the sport at least for a year before worrying about changing guns, there is far more to be learned technique wise that will help your scores far more than changing gear.
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I am an IDPA SO and have been shooting IDPA for a few years now. As mentioned above I will be using the gun for IDPA. I think I am ready to buy a new gun to try for IPSC as well. But thanks for the excellent advice regardless.
 
lanis said:
And how about Glock 17L for IPSC?
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A Very bad choice. As 7.62 pointed out, it's not on the production gun list, so it can't compete there and the gun is too long to fit into the standard gun box, so it's out of that division.

The only place for it is Open; and that would be like trying to drag race a Corvette ZR1 with your Chevy Cobalt.
 
PH Racing said:
Shoot the sport at least for a year before worrying about changing guns, there is far more to be learned technique wise that will help your scores far more than changing gear.
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If you really feel exited about the sport, why wait a year before getting a competitive gun? My first IPSC gun was CZ Shadow and after a year I am not going to change my mind about it. Best gun for Production ever!
 
euxx said:
If you really feel exited about the sport, why wait a year before getting a competitive gun? My first IPSC gun was CZ Shadow and after a year I am not going to change my mind about it. Best gun for Production ever!
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Euxx
but you are IT guy
 
euxx said:
If you really feel exited about the sport, why wait a year before getting a competitive gun? My first IPSC gun was CZ Shadow and after a year I am not going to change my mind about it. Best gun for Production ever!
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Over the years I have seen many shooters try to spend their way to better finishes, seldom see them for long in the sport...the skills needed to excel at this sport can be learned and applied with any reliable accurate pistol, I see many comments on guys like Sevigny et al and how they do well with guns other than the Shadow because they are paid to. Thus is about as far from the truth as you can get. They do well because they spent a lot of time working on the skills, not worrying about their "inferior" gear. The skills are the same no matter what you use.
 
PH Racing said:
Over the years I have seen many shooters try to spend their way to better finishes, seldom see them for long in the sport...the skills needed to excel at this sport can be learned and applied with any reliable accurate pistol, I see many comments on guys like Sevigny et al and how they do well with guns other than the Shadow because they are paid to. Thus is about as far from the truth as you can get. They do well because they spent a lot of time working on the skills, not worrying about their "inferior" gear. The skills are the same no matter what you use.
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True enough. BUT, if you are buying your first gun and can afford a good one, there is no reason not to do so in a first place.
 
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