G36 Botched Range Report and Accuracy Test

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I've got about 500 rounds down my G36, and I decided to share some of my observations. Yesterday I decided to attempt an accuracy test. If you look at some of my other posts, you will see I have a rifle rest with an automated trigger . For the test, I put on a Nightforce ATACR 5-25 instead of the 3x carrier optic scope. The rifle rest did not work out. The rifle didn't sit very well in the rifle rest, and the pin that moves the trigger was contacting the the top of the trigger. The result is that the stepper motor didn't have the power to pull the trigger. This test had to be done "manually". But it get's better.

The G36 trigger is pretty heavy and quite creepy. It took me a while to warm up to the trigger. By the last few groups, I realized I get much more consistent and better trigger pull if I move my grip lower down and press the trigger on the bottom. This helped me shoot much better groups.

Now the creme de la creme: When I changed optics back to the 3x carry handle, I realized the scope had only been "hand tightened" ROFLOL.

Ammo was Federal Gold Match 69gr, and 73 gr. Had lots of fun yesterday despite this. No regrets except not letting my excitement and range trip anticipation making me to forget double checking my set up.

Here are the groups:


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I wonder if I could repeat that one sub moa group had I corrected all the mistakes from above. In general seems like the rifle will do 1.5moa. When I initially sighted in the 3x optic, PMC Xtac 5.56 62gr was giving me 4-5" 10 shot groups at 200m. It's a pretty decent in terms of accuracy. It's not a precision rifle nor is it meant to be.

I have to say, that the G36 in general, is a really nice rifle. It is really simple in construction in take down. It has a smooth operation, and is very light. The 3x optic, with it's terrible eye relief isn't that horrible to use. Optical clarity through that lens is actually pretty decent, and the scope is integrated with the rifle to give the user good ergonomics. It's areal shame that these rifles are so rare and thus so cost prohibitive. I'm glad Tactical Imports was able to bring in the parts and build these rifles so that a few more people would be able to own them. Keeping mine for life unless I lose it in a boating accident.

MODS: Having some trouble posting the thread, apologies if this is a double post.
 
I have fired the K and C models quite a bit. They get extremely hot very fast. I'd agree about the poor trigger. I never shot for groups so I can't comment on accuracy but I generally hit what I was aiming at.
 
To improve the trigger, you can throw a couple SL8 parts in there, mainly the trigger spring.

There is also an after market lower that accepts AR15 triggers, I’m waiting for my Geissele to show up so I can test is out.

And lastly, cloth and some polish goes a long way on those pins. Drilling the holes a hair larger also helps with pin rotation.
 
When I owned one of the earlier batch of 100% German G36s, the best that I could wring out of it accuracy wise was 2 MOA with 62gr PMC XTAC ammo. I attributed the group size primarily to the heavy and creepy G36 military Trigger, but figured it would probably print 1.5" 5-round groups with match ammo. They are a comfortable, lightweight, reliable and sufficiently accurate automatic service rifle. They just happen to cost more than double what they are actually worth. I'm not overly sorry that mine has moved on to a happy new owner...
 
Once again.......24000 rounds fired in the Yuma Proving ground, no lubing, no malfunctions and no parts breakage.
No combat rifle in the world can match that performance.
All the misinformation about the melting trunnions....yup if your fire more than 500 rounds continuously on full auto you will have problems.....with any combat rifle.
Don't do that and you have a spectacular weapon.

Rich
 
Maybe try standard 55 gr. ball. The reason I am saying this is because I have a SL8 with the same twist and logic would indicate that the heavier bullets would be more accurate, not so...55 gr. out perform the heavier ones any day of the week. Just my 2 cents.
 
Jaegermeister said:
Maybe try standard 55 gr. ball. The reason I am saying this is because I have a SL8 with the same twist and logic would indicate that the heavier bullets would be more accurate, not so...55 gr. out perform the heavier ones any day of the week. Just my 2 cents.
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Despite logic saying otherwise, 55grn often does as good or better than heavier stuff when talking 5.56 and 1:7.
 
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Despite logic saying otherwise, 55grn often does as good or better than heavier stuff when talking 5.56 and 1:7.
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I find this too, especially if you have a quality barrel and a good trigger...helps that 55gr is cheaper and available in bulk too!!!
 
Rich LPS said:
Once again.......24000 rounds fired in the Yuma Proving ground, no lubing, no malfunctions and no parts breakage.
No combat rifle in the world can match that performance.
All the misinformation about the melting trunnions....yup if your fire more than 500 rounds continuously on full auto you will have problems.....with any combat rifle.
Don't do that and you have a spectacular weapon.

Rich
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That's nuthin. A good test would be to give it to a ground pounder in VP for a couple of range days. Now there's the real torture test. The tupperware won't last past lunch with a couple of rat packs.
 
Gobc said:
If you look at some of my other posts, you will see I have a rifle rest with an automated trigger ...
The rifle didn't sit very well in the rifle rest, and the pin that moves the trigger was contacting the the top of the trigger.
The result is that the stepper motor didn't have the power to pull the trigger.
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You realize you've admitted to making & using what could easily be considered a PROHIBITED DEVICE...

V:I: :slap: f:P:
 
Dont confuse the fact that you traded a down payment on a house for that thing meaning it's some kind of uber rifle with the "best of everything".
I've never shot one personally but from what reading I've done on them they're just another variant of a modern small caliber autoloading battle rifle manufactured in bulk and meant for military use.
I wouldn't expect much better results than any mid range AR15 would do honestly. I would have been surprised otherwise actually.

It's cool rifle. Dont get me wrong here. Cool because it's rare in our borders mostly. But you have to be realistic with what it actually is not with how big an importer made their profit margins on it.

They're drastically inflated price wise because they're rare. Not because of their magical attributes.
 
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Travis Bickle said:
Dont confuse the fact that you traded a down payment on a house for that thing meaning it's some kind of uber rifle with the "best of everything".
I've never shot one personally but from what reading I've done on them they're just another variant of a modern small caliber autoloading battle rifle manufactured in bulk and meant for military use.
I wouldn't expect much better results than any mid range AR15 would do honestly. I would have been surprised otherwise actually.

It's cool rifle. Dont get me wrong here. Cool because it's rare in our borders mostly. But you have to be realistic with what it actually is not with how big an importer made their profit margins on it.

They're drastically inflated price wise because they're rare. Not because of their magical attributes.
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Amen. Don't fall for the HK hype train - it's an AR-18 operating system coated in plastic. You're paying exorbitant prices for a rifle that can't be altered or customized to fit the user. The "basic" G36 can't change the pistol grip or the stock length. Are they cool looking guns? Sure. I'd love to own one if it cost as much as an AR, but they don't. I don't want to own one that badly. The G36 isn't 6-8x better than a good AR-15 and isn't worth 6-8x the cost of one. But that's just me.
 
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