G43....What to do?

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Cam_S

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Hello,

I have had this for quite a while now and I am wondering what to do with the stock. It is an ac44, all matching Russian Capture.

I have phoned every wood working company in Winnipeg and none of them have been able to help:mad: . I would like to get a new stock made for it. Does anyone know where I can get this done? Or even better, does anyone have one for sale?

Thanks,
Cam

PS and the answer of selling it is not an option:cool:









 
Cam_S said:
Hello, I have had this for quite a while now and I am wondering what to do with the stock. It is an ac44, all matching Russian Capture. I have phoned every wood working company in Winnipeg and none of them have been able to help:mad: . I would like to get a new stock made for it. Does anyone know where I can get this done? Or even better, does anyone have one for sale?

Thanks,
Cam
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Well, a quick google turned these up on page one. I didn't go deeper, but based upon these hits I'd say you have a very good chance of finding a new "all correct" stock right of someone's shelf. The first link is a "buy now" and the second one is a restoration site for G43's, so you may want to drop the site operator an email and see if he can help you out.


Gew 43 (G43) stock assembly (click here)http://www.wwiiguns.com/shop/produc...8c&PHPSESSID=f9fc9aa4b96fdf5761775921bd9419ff
"Spare stock assembly for Gew 43 (G43) rifles. Genuine wood and metal. Includes butt stock and stock screws"

G43 & K43 rifle restoration and parts (click here)http://www.apfeltor.com/

Regards,
Badger
 
Thanks

Hey,

Thanks for the ideas.

Unfortunatly internet prices are way out of my league.

I am looking for someone more local or semi-local who won't charge $600.00 to make one.

Thanks,
Cam
 
Cam_S said:
I am looking for someone more local or semi-local who won't charge $600.00 to make one.

Thanks,
Cam
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I don't understand the logic. I'm not a skilled craftsman, but I doubt you'll ever find anyone to make one of these from scratch for less. You might want to try the guys in the gunsmith forums who build up their own stocks and see if they're looking for any overflow work.

Also, aren't these rifles very expensive? There's one on Gunbroker auctioning right now for $3750 U.S. Wouldn't a $500 investment in your rifle for an original stock easily pay itself back?

Anyway, here's another all original for an even lower price.

G43 / K43 Collectors Homepage (click here)http://www.gewehr43.com/

G/K43 Stocks, Single Guide rail, Comes with Hand guard $460http://www.gewehr43.com/forsale.htm

Regards,
Badger
 
Stocks

Hello,

The stocks that people find on the internet are constantly causing collectors probelms. I have only ever had the chance to examine one other G43 and that stock was 3/4 in off of mine and would not fit. The problem is the fact that the late war manufacturing was so unstandardized that very few rifles are the same.

So one person in the states copies their stock and tries to sell it, people buy it and it does not fit. I have been all over the internet searching so I thought I would try and find someone to make it.

As for gunbroker, those are American Prices and I don't think those are the same in Canada. I have not seen to many sell so I can't tell you how similar they are.

Cam
 
Keep searching. Realistically, you aren't going to find someone to make an inexpensive stock that will closely resemble an original. To make a quality repro at a reasonable price, it would be necessary for someone with a wood carving machine to have an original stock as a pattern. And it is unlikely that someone with a K43 is going to loan the stock. The stock in the link is an original. Put it on your rifle and you have a mismatched rifle. Install a repro, and you have a restocked restoration. There would be a difference in ultimate value. Reproduction stocks have been produced using laminated blanks. The price was less than the original, but they were not cheap.
 
Cam_S said:
Hello,

The stocks that people find on the internet are constantly causing collectors probelms. I have only ever had the chance to examine one other G43 and that stock was 3/4 in off of mine and would not fit. The problem is the fact that the late war manufacturing was so unstandardized that very few rifles are the same.
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Well, again........ I'm just a country boy, but the guy who could tell you is Keith Cunningham up at Milcun. He's built beautiful custom rifles for both ~Angel~ and myself, right from scratch. The stocks were just one block of wood when he showed them originally to us. I doubt he'd touch a "one-off" like your needs for the price point your looking for, but it might be worth asking.

Regards,
Badger
 
http://www.wwiiguns.com/shop/products.php?p=82e6e5&PHPSESSID=f9fc9aa4b96fdf5761775921bd9419ff

This stock appears to be made in Japan by Shoei as the buttplate is blued, originals weren't blued (in the white). Shoei also makes reproduction G43's, MP44's, Fg42's. (Replicas cannot be imported into Canada, but the stock can).
The non firing replica G43 sells for over $2K USD.

Perhaps if you have time, and lots of it, you can make one yourself from a
walnut blank or a more correct beech wood blank that is laminated.
 
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what I want to know is why, after all that work you went through to customize that stock, you want to undo your handiwork? Three words for ya, drill, tap, scope...
 
Stock

Let me clear this up. I am not looking for a $25 stock. i expect to pay in the $350 range. However I am not going to spend over $350 since that is what i paid for the rifle last year. Paying $600 like on the internet for a stock that might not fit is not an avenue that I would like to go down.

Ollie- just wait until the next time that we go shooting.

Cam
 
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Cam_S said:
Let me clear this up. I am not looking for a $25 stock. i expect to pay in the $350 range. However I am not going to spend over $350 since that is what i paid for the rifle last year. Paying $600 like on the internet for a stock that might not fit is not an avenue that I would like to go down.

Ollie- just wait until the next time that we go shooting.

Cam
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If you paid $350 for a rifle with an elegant but wrong stock, and the same rifle with a wartime stock is selling US for TEN TIMES that price, wouldn't you want to invest in a repro stock to have a chance at making a BIG PROFIT?

You can always buy on the condition that if it doesn't fit, you get your money back. But, if you don't I'll match your money and pay shipping ....

back East, waiting by my computer ......
 
Stock Problem G43

At the Yorkton gunshow in late February one of the vendors was displaying some miscellaneous repro stocks he had produced with a stock duplicator - MIGHT have been Robert Wilson, Harris, Sask o/a RIW. If no other CGN'rs remember who it was maybe try him at 306-656-2159 or ri.wilson@sasktel.net. GoodLuck!!
 
kayceel said:
At the Yorkton gunshow in late February one of the vendors was displaying some miscellaneous repro stocks he had produced with a stock duplicator - MIGHT have been Robert Wilson, Harris, Sask o/a RIW. If no other CGN'rs remember who it was maybe try him at 306-656-2159 or ri.wilson@sasktel.net. GoodLuck!!
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Thanks for your help. This is the type of thing I was looking for all along.

steve1973- Thanks for the site. I have been a member there for a couple of years now and every second person on that site is looking for a stock.

Thanks Anyways,
Cam
 
Rounds down range

You should still come out and shoot at the end of the month anyway. Or are you pimping yourself to the queen that weekend.

ARTE ET MARTE / FACTA NON VERBA
 
I think you guys are missing the point. Cam doesnt want to sell his G43. Being a student in a similar financial boat, I can understand that, although this gun deserves a stock worth $1000, sometimes it's just not feasible. I've got a 50's chevy that is worth 10,000 if I only put 5,000 of work into it. Trouble is, Its not very convenient or financially sound for me to put into it what would double my money, as I never plan to part with it. C'mon over to my house one night soon Cam, we can get a case of beer, some firewood, a piece of stock material, and a couple pocket knives-it would be close to what the germans would have been turning out near the end of the war, right?
 
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