Garbage day find *more pics added*

The dark blue diamond is a formation patch for the 2nd Canadian Corps (1st Corps was a red diamond). The structure goes Batallion-Brigade-Division-Corps-Army-Amry Group. During WWI, we fielded 3 infantry divisions, 2 armoured divisions and 2 independant armoured brigades (plus supporting arms), which formed the 1st and 2nd Corps, which in turn constituted the Canadian 1st Army. Back home, we had an additional 3 Divisions at one time or another for home defence and reinforcements.

Don't clean it; leave it as is. Finding one with formation markings, particularly is such good shape and clarity, is a plus. A plain jane bag runs $40-50, sometimes more. To the right collector, it could be worth a lot more. Nice find.
 
t-star said:
that looks like the large pack for the 1937 pattern british webbing- attached to the "wrong" straps etc-ther's a small pack as well, a canteen, bren gun pouches,etc- however, there are knockoffs around - walmart was selling the knockoff as a "fashion " pack a few years back when the kids were into bullet belts and all that "military" stuff- the way to tell was the heaviness of the canvas and if there was a made in china, tiawan/korea label sewn to the inside
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Very cool, thanks! I'll have to go do some searching to see what the complete set should look like.

Makes sense that the straps are hooked up incorrectly as the only a small child might be able to wear it in its current state.
 
These bags were also part of the issue kit with the No4Mk1(T) sniper rifle. According to Skennerton they can often be found with the tops slit open so the rifle can be carried with out removing the scope.
I believe the original intention of the bag was to protect and somewhat conceal the rifle when in transit to and from the front when troops were passing through populated areas.
 
sfx said:
Very cool, thanks! I'll have to go do some searching to see what the complete set should look like.

Makes sense that the straps are hooked up incorrectly as the only a small child might be able to wear it in its current state.
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just type in british pattern 37 webbing in your search engine- it's all there- there was a time when they couldn't give this stuff away - most of us have the odd pouch or haversack or something- finding the proper straps can be an adventure though
 
jdman said:
I hate when people pillage through my garbage.....
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So.... You would have rather had these pieces of history go in landfill???:kickInTheNuts:
I hate when people throw out perfectly good items instead of taking the time to offer them to someone who can put them to good use. I also found several boxes of live ammo in the bag :eek:. Who knows where the firearms ended up.
 
glang1 said:
So.... You would have rather had these pieces of history go in landfill???:kickInTheNuts:
I hate when people throw out perfectly good items instead of taking the time to offer them to someone who can put them to good use. I also found several boxes of live ammo in the bag :eek:. Who knows where the firearms ended up.
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No i do my part, and i recycle. Unfortunately a lot of people dont. I give old clothing, and stuff like that to the thrift stores. What calibers of ammo in the bag?
 
jdman said:
No i do my part, and i recycle. Unfortunately a lot of people dont. I give old clothing, and stuff like that to the thrift stores. What calibers of ammo in the bag?
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OK Jdman, I understand you. Didn't mean to be confrontational. I found a bag with 303B, 30-06 SPR, 7.62x54R, .308, & .22 Hornet live ammo.
 
Well I had more time today to go through the contents of the duffel bag I rescued from the trashman. I found some interesting goodies inside besides the WWII issue gun sleeve that I posted pictures of at the start of this thread. Here are more pictures.

This is the large duffel bag.
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Picture of the printed lettering inside the large duffel bag. No date on this bag that I could find, don't know country of origin, I would guess Canadian?
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This small bag was inside the large duffel bag.
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Date on inside flap of small bag is 1944
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Contents of small bag.
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Live ammo is 303B, 30-06 SPR, 7.62x54R, 1 box of .22 shorts, & some fired brass. The small box in the top right corner is a vintage compass with an Elwood Epps sticker on it. Looks NIB.

Not sure what this bag is for, but it is US issue, & is also dated 1944. My friend thought is might have been for a gas mask.
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I have no idea what the next bag was for. I is fleece lined & also looks to be WWII issue. Anyone have any idea what this is for?
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Nice score, probably a good thing the ammo didn't end up in the dump too. I see the broad arrow on one of the bags, good article. Your marshall amp ain't bad either
 
The last two bags are for a double barreled shotgun, one for the barrels and one for the butt/receiver. The small compartment on the side was used for a triple sectioned cleaning rod, usually made of wood and brass. I don't think it's military.
 
Garbage Day Finds

General note regarding webbing: If you find a Broad Arrow /I\ it's of British manufacture. If the Broad Arrow is surrounded by a "C"...it's Canadian manufacture.

Rifle valise: I've often wondered what purpose the pocket served. Storage for mag and cleaning kit? One of mine is of British origin, the other Canadian.

The duffel bag was a very common item of Canadian kit issue. Used to pack up all your belongings whilst en route to a base or camp.

Small pack inside the duffel bag: Looks to be a Satchel, Signals. Used by Signal Corps types to hold extra headsets and other ancilliary sig equipment. ZL&T Ltd=Zephyr Loom & Textile Ltd...a very prolific producer of a wide range of Canadian web gear. Having said the above, the presence of the "window" under the top cover makes me think that this item may have been an Officer's carry-all. Does this satchel have the words "Satchel Signals" stencilled in black along the top?...if so, it's a Sigs Satchel, if not I'd tend to go with the Officer's carry-all designation.

Hope this helps.
 
Rifle valise: I've often wondered what purpose the pocket served. Storage for mag and cleaning kit? One of mine is of British origin said:
I would be very interested in seeing your Canadian made rifle valise. I have been collecting Canadian militaria for almost 20 years and have yet to see a Canadian made one (nor have any of the other collectors that I have discussed this with). If yours is in fact Canadian made it will be a rather rare item. It is possible to have British made items with a C broad arrow to indicate that the item was accepted into Canadian military stores.
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i think its very ignorant how some people would just throw out what is probably some of their grandfathers kit from ww2... thank god i was raised in a family that cherished these sacrifices and taught me about it all, with some cool mementos to hold in my hands
 
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