Gear or skills?

I have no problem with it. Just means everyone is scaring animals from where ATVs can go into the places only I can hike. It is sometimes nice to keep the circus all contained in one area, leaving other areas relatively untouched.
 
Dogleg said:
Its best to hunt your way and not concern yourself with what other people do. The game management aspect is satisfied with the bag limit or number of tags. Usually when people complain about ATVs its because they don't have one.
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I don't have an ATV, never wanted one for hunting , but this is spot on.

Hunt your way. Don't worry how the other guy is hunting.
 
Hunting is a hobby to most like any other, some people live off the land. Either way, hunting is the experience you want it to be. Some people like the camping part and finding a reason to park their motor home and ride their quads around, hunting being one of the highlights.

Some people, like me, go hunting purely for the experience of the game. I don't care about riding quads or camping, I just want to breathe fresh air and be part of my surroundings. I want to stalk, intercept or lure prey. My fun is in the chase, and the harvest. But that's just where I'm at in my life, and it may or may not change depending on life circumstances etc.. Like in the future if my wife wants to accompany me on a hunt and wants a camper, then I might compromise my experience with the addition of family experience. Nothing wrong there, if anything i'd be glad there was a way to introduce my wife to my lifelong hobby.

I don't think there is anything wrong with any of these approaches. Some like having nice toys, some prefer getting to business, and then there are all the shades in between.

Cheers
 
Sometimes, if you listen really close, you can hear the deer laughing at the road hunter antics. Deer don't like engines and run into the deep bush. However, where you sleep makes no difference.
 
To each his own, of course.

However, it pisses me off when I get up early and get out to a good spot and I am sitting there quietly waiting for the early morning deer browsing, then some lazy prick on a quad comes roaring into the area (despite seeing a truck parked at the bottom of the trail).

I know I can't do anything about it, and "he has just as much right to be there as I do" but curiously, this doesn't make my blood boil any less.
 
ironsighter said:
To each his own, of course.

However, it pisses me off when I get up early and get out to a good spot and I am sitting there quietly waiting for the early morning deer browsing, then some lazy prick on a quad comes roaring into the area (despite seeing a truck parked at the bottom of the trail).

I know I can't do anything about it, and "he has just as much right to be there as I do" but curiously, this doesn't make my blood boil any less.
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He does have the right, but he doesn't have to be an a-hole about it..
 
Do you use a boat when you fish?


CV32 said:
I brought it up, so I assume you're asking me. First, let's define "mechanized hunter" as the guy who is perfectly able bodied and capable of getting off the bike or out of the truck but prefers road hunting because its "easier".

I care because (as already intimated):

* that kind of mechanized hunter also tends to be the same folks who ignore ATV regulations generally, driving their ATVs across bogs and wetlands and destroying wildlife habitat, which not only leaves ugly scars on the landscape but destroys our collective hunting possibilities tomorrow
* he also tends to be the same folks who ignores hunting regulations generally, e.g. shooting from the vehicle, acting with disregard for other hunters (both in terms of safety and common courtesy), and outright poaching
* he also tends to be the same folks who show blatant ignorance and disregard for the environment generally, e.g. tossing garbage, ignoring conservation efforts, etc.
* and if he is mentoring new hunters or young hunters, he is passing on the same vile habits to the next generation of hunters

I am probably missing a few more. I realize this does not apply across the board to all "road hunters", but I have found it to be generally accurate. Your own experience may vary.
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Slaymoar said:
He does have the right, but he doesn't have to be an a-hole about it..
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In my experience, there is some unknown factor that compels the vast majority of them to be a-holes about it.

I suspect that this factor is quite simple, but I cannot confirm my suspicion.
 
It probably seems like the ATV user thinks he owns the trail, seen from the perspective of someone who thinks that parking a truck on it makes it his trail.

I'm trying to be more broad minded.:p
 
Dogleg said:
It probably seems like the ATV user thinks he owns the trail, seen from the perspective of someone who thinks that parking a truck on it makes it his trail.

I'm trying to be more broad minded.:p
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I don't park on the trail, I park off to the side.

When I reach a trail-head and I see any vehicle parked there, I go somewhere else. It's called "uncommon courtesy".
 
CV32 said:
Depends on the waterway. Sometimes the North Atlantic makes for a hard swim.
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Just the same, you should just use the boat for transportation and not cheat yourself out of the total experience.Swimming would be best, but maybe if you floated around on some debris or in a belly boat it would satisfy my sense of ethical fair-play.
 
oh this thread has some great potential.... ;)


I quad hunt, I've done it for many years, we had trikes before they made quads, and sleds, but not so good without snow, and 4x4 trucks and argos.

I'll quad a bit and then stop park the quad sit a bit walk a bit quad a bit..... sometimes I'll have a little fire and warm up, cook some sausages.... I guess the smoke and cookign will frighten all the game away but I don't care I'm hunting and enjoying myself.

you hunt how you want, I'll do it my way.


sitting in a tree stand over bait don't seem fair to me but I'm not advocating for that to be illegal or restricted.
 
I had an ATV I used for hunting for a few years, it was fun and I got many animals
I sold it, now I hunt on foot and have fun and have gotten many animals

Mind your own business, they do what they enjoy and not what you enjoy.
 
woodchopper said:
oh this thread has some great potential.... ;)


I quad hunt, I've done it for many years, we had trikes before they made quads, and sleds, but not so good without snow, and 4x4 trucks and argos.

I'll quad a bit and then stop park the quad sit a bit walk a bit quad a bit..... sometimes I'll have a little fire and warm up, cook some sausages.... I guess the smoke and cookign will frighten all the game away but I don't care I'm hunting and enjoying myself.

you hunt how you want, I'll do it my way.


sitting in a tree stand over bait don't seem fair to me but I'm not advocating for that to be illegal or restricted.
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Funny you say that. I hunt the ol fashioned way, with whatever comfy clothes I have for the weather, and a vest if required. No special hunting gear other than my scoped rifle. This has just been the way I was taught and enjoyed doing. But sometimes my dad would take me for a drive and we'd look for grouse on the side of the road driving really slow. Being in Northern Ontario at the time (Hearst to Wawa area), grouse or "partrige" is extremely stupid and will wait for you to aim, miss and take another shot before flushing. Anyways, driving in the truck was a valid way to hunt. Once we found one, we'd take it and walk into the woods 20-30 yards to see if there was anything else, sometimes there would be another couple grouse.

But its the natives in the area that quad hunt. I also hunted with a local from the reserve, and he would take me on that land to get some grouse. I would regularely see quads going up and down trails. They would head down in the morning, then later that day there would be a bear or a wolf, sometimes bird on the back of the quads. Not sure what they did, but it worked for them lol... Here I was with my half broken .22 walking like a chump pushing bush, and these guys were in and out with all kinds of game.

Either way, I was having the time of my life, so I was all smiles and happy thoughts. I had my 2-3 grouse so I was never dissapointed with my days on those lands. I think grouse is one of my favorite hunts, but of my friends have been bugging me about duck hunting too... I'm not too keen about the blind thing, I am more of an upland "take a walk" guy.
 
jaydog said:
I don't have a quad but when I'm lucky the wife will piggy back me. Does that make me a lazy hunter? ;)
Besides hunting from a quad is very Darwinian- you only shoot the stupid animals!
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yup....like woodchopper says..... we get the dumb ones :D just look at it this way, we are doing our part to ensure natural selection LOL the smart ones survive and the dumb ones are for the deep freeze
 
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