gearing up for 3gun

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I rrrrrrrrreally don't wanna sound like a troll, but I'm thinking about 3-gun, and been debating the 10.5 vs 14'' vs 16'' vs 18''. Would a 10.5'' really put me behind?
Also, still not sure about the shotty and chest rig but I think I can figure these by myself.

Also, would you guys have any good reads related to the subject, articles or other forum links, to share? I have already started reading the IPSC shotgun/rifle rulebooks for starters.
 
Check out Brian Enos.com and look at the 3 gun forums. There is a ton of info there. It seems most of the AR platforms in the states for 3 gun are using longer barrel AR's with comps, 22" barrel semi auto shotguns and high cap pistols are popular. Also check out 3Gun Nation website as a source and may point you to other useful places.
 
peacefrog said:
Also check out 3Gun Nation website as a source and may point you to other useful places.
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http://3gunnation.com/

Yep... The game is really taking off.
The support and promoton it's getting are great.. Hell, most of the matches we've shot have prize tables worth tens of thousands of dollars.
At last check, for FNH next week they're up to over $100000 in awards.
You'll NEVER see shooting sports here with such rewards for it's top players.
:(

I'll warn you though... 'get bitten by the 3-gun bug and all other games pale in comparison...:D
Here's a couple shots from the O3GC back in Sept.

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I am on the waiting list for a 10.5 NEA which I am hoping to use for 3 gun. I am worried that it may not make power factor for ipsc rifle. You need 150 to shoot minor. While my googlefu is weak I have found loads that look like they may work. I decided to keep my first choice rather than go for the 14.5 as I really like the shorty AR.

For the shotgun I bought a bennelli nova pump with a mag extension. In the states they are not limited to 5 rounds for a semi.
 
Also really liking the 10.5'', that's why I asked.
150 doesn't look too bad for a power factor, with a 69grain bullet thats just over 2170 fps. Power factor for major however, the same 69grain pill would have to travel over 4000fps :p (I'm guessing major is for 308 :D)
 
JBD said:
I am on the waiting list for a 10.5 NEA which I am hoping to use for 3 gun.
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You will not be able to take a 10.5" into the USA.
Unimportable under a Form6NIA
Shortest barrel allowed is 16"

I mean y'might wanna reconsider all this love for shorties... Most deceant 3 gun down south involves some pretty good/challenging distances... Having to engage at 500+ yards does occur and way often you're faced with 200-300 yard targets.

If you don't plan on ever shooting a US match then it doesn't matter what you buy, but.. forwarned is forarmed
 
Are pistol caliber carbines suitable/allowed for 3 gun matches? ie can I use a glock and sub 2000 that interchange mags and ammo to keep it simple?
 
luke s said:
Are pistol caliber carbines suitable/allowed for 3 gun matches? ie can I use a glock and sub 2000 that interchange mags and ammo to keep it simple?
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Generally no but, you really have to define what people mean when they say "I wanna shoot 3-gun".

There are matches that follow a pretty universal set of rules where there isn't even mention of pistol cal. carbines. Such as FNH, O3GC, FB3G, BRM3G etc

There's the ipsc version of 3 gun.

There are clubs that host regular 3-gun events where they may on occaision taylor a match to PCC's

There are those more informal matches where a bunch of guys get together and make up some rules, put together a match and have some fun.
 
You could just keep it simple and shoot Heavy Metal Irons Div.

.30cal rifle
.45 pistol
.12ga pump

no optics.. iron sights only.
 
love that vid. I think I would be interested in more informal stuff for now. do not have the $$$ for an AR right now
 
who runs 3 gun matches in Ontario?
Only one im aware of is ODPL. Anyone else running them?
I think alot of the USA gun choices wouldn't be as effective in Canada given our mag capacity limits and what not.
 
667 said:
You could just keep it simple and shoot Heavy Metal Irons Div.

.30cal rifle
.45 pistol
.12ga pump

no optics.. iron sights only.
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That's interesting, I would already be all set with my heavy pos norinco m14, g21sf and some random 12ga
 
sly mantis said:
I think alot of the USA gun choices wouldn't be as effective in Canada given our mag capacity limits and what not.
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It's all relative... Our mag limits only mean you need mags and should know how to change 'em fast.
If everyone is subject to the same mag circumstance it makes no diff.

For example... We're in the process of putting together div. rules for our cooperative 3 gun series... Surely to be a few arguements over the bar table at FNH next week :D

I imagine we'll steal a rule set already out there and in use by the majors in the US.

Yes it'll be a little different in that our Heavy Metal div. will by default limit shooters to 5 round mags... I can't think of any semiauto .30cal rifles other than the Garand that can legally use larger cap. mags... Thing is, you could probably enter the div. using a bolt gun with a higher mag cap., but that's up to you... Given how well I've seen some guys handle their semi's a guy who "knows" his bolt just might beat 'em anyway:D

Tactical optics... AR's dominate this div. so here in Canada most of us will employ the LAR pistol mags with their 10rnd cap.
If you don't have any LAR mags... Get some. The match dir. shouldn't have to modify the match to fit with what you have to shoot with.
At any major in the US guys will employ 40+ round AR mags... I only use 30's.. 'Means I better either get me a 40 or 60 round Surefire mag or... learn to change my 30's fast.
As a match dir. if you enter my match and want to use a PCC go ahead. I'll take your $$ and let you compete, but don't cry about the targets being too small or too far away for you to hit. :D

As far as Shotguns go... In the US for sure in any div. other than HM semi's rule... Here we loath reloading shotgun tubes on the clock so pumps might be a better choice.. or are they?
I mean sure, a pump holds more rounds, but you can shoot a semi faster. Can a good shooter break even on time between the two...? I dunno.
And depending on how the match is run I can start a stage with 7 rounds in my semi... a pump what.. maybe 8 or 9.? Does one or two extra rounds make any difference if your other skills are somewhat lacking..? Again, I dunno.

'Sorry.. long post.
The only thing I like more than shooting 3-gun is talking about shooting 3-gun. :redface:
 
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